HE IS RISEN! Surprising scientific facts of Jesus’ burial shroud

In preparation for the holy-days’ weekend Nina creates a tableau for contemplating Jesus Christ’s death and resurrection. She’s inspired about what items to collect and arrange, usually including a rock with a central hole eroded by the sea and which we found on a beach. It serves as both the ‘skull’ and garden tomb of Golgotha. For example, the above display has a scarf as a ‘river of life’ flowing out of the empty cave/tomb below the cross. (In 2012 it gave an insight that I’ll share below.)

A slightly different display is set up each Maunday Thursday, the night of which Jesus and the twelve leading disciples ate Passover Seder early (see video explanation). Following the meal, one disciple betrayed Him by leading Temple guards to capture Him at night for trial by a ‘kangaroo’ court of Jewish leaders.  It was a foregone conclusion that they would demand authorisation of His death from Pontius Pilate, the Roman Prefect, or governor, of Judea.

If you’re unfamiliar with this true story and how it led to Jesus’ gruesome torture, death and burial followed by his amazing bodily resurrection and appearance to His disciples, read doctor Luke’s investigative account and the personal account of Jesus’ closest disciple John. (Later, a Jewish leader violently opposed to them but who encountered Jesus en-route to Damascus would write He was seen simultaneously by over 500 – 1 Cor 15:6)

A BIT OF THEOLOGY

Jesus Christ died so that each of us may be forgiven for our sins. As a result of this new status, we now have direct personal access to God. As the Son of God, He suffered on our behalf as our ‘scapegoat’.  That is, Jesus took the place of death that we deserved because of our sinfulness, for the shedding of a sinless one’s blood was the only way our status could be changed for us to gain personal salvation. Apostle Paul put it thus to the Romans:

8But God demonstrates His own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us. 9 Since we have now been justified by His blood, how much more shall we be saved from God’s wrath through Him! 10 For if, while we were God’s enemies, we were reconciled to Him through the death of his Son, how much more, having been reconciled, shall we be saved through His life! 11 Not only is this so, but we also boast in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received reconciliation. (Romans 5:8-11, NIV, see whole chapter.)

Now, when I was a new Christian I found that rather hard to understand – but it works! The theological term is ‘atonement’, or ‘substitutionary atonement’.  In bringing forgive-ness to the guilty, however, this can cause deep problems for those who’ve been the victim of crimes. After all, why should a killer find forgiveness by God? And what about the victim’s families, or the victim of abuse? They find it very hard if well-nigh impossible to forgive.

In 2012 I heard a Portsmouth prison chaplain address this issue with a concept taken from the criminal justice system: restorative justice. This involves active dialogue between victim and offender, plus reparation.  And it has a sound basis in  theology. How?

Jesus was a guiltless victim, directly of those who wanted Him killed, and indirectly of everyone’s ‘fallen state’ of sinfulness, which could only be rectified by His death.

And Almighty God, the Father, is a victim too. How? He’s victim of humanity’s rebellion against Him. For example and especially over the way religious leaders murdered His son – how they seethed with rage when Jesus denounced them! (read Luke 20:9-19).  So, every victim can find an identity and affinity in both God and Jesus Christ in their situation. Hence, they can receive God’s own ability to forgive because He will help them choose to forgive those who’ve harmed them. [Lack of forgiveness may be the only thing that hampers God – see Matt 6:14-15]

A TABLEAU IN TIME

During contemplation upon the tableau illustrated above, an insight dropped into mind that the Resurrection created a distinct point in the flow of, or perhaps even a change in, time itself. That is, the now termed ‘common era’ calendar is the medieval Christian one that counts years from the approximate birth of Christ as ‘anno Domini’. But in fact, a more powerful one would be the point at which things in heaven changed and thus affected our lives on earth and its ultimate role in God’s scheme of creation. This took place at the Resurrection of Jesus Christ, His revival to life from death itself.

That such a concept may be valid can be found in the discoveries about the material of ‘The Shroud of Turin’, the shroud in which Jesus was thought to have been carried and covered during His interment. It is of most astounding significance when examined from the view-point of modern physics.

Putting the supra-natural aspect aside for the moment, that unique, most singular event could have naturally happened by means of a ‘singularity’ (a theoretical gravitational effect associated with ‘black holes’, eg. as may have been the starting point of the creation of the universe, or ‘Big Bang’).

Don’t take my word for this but consider that of Dame Isabel Piczek (dec’d 2016), famous as a monumental artist and award-winning figurative draughtswoman. Her highly detailed analysis of theories about how the image on the shroud was formed is authoritative, as in the first of several detailed articles here.

Also, as a physicist who may have considered implications from a quantum mechanics standpoint, her conclusions about how the image was formed are most intriguing: it seems that the image of Jesus can only have been created by its hovering equidistantly above and below his reclining bent corpse. Furthermore, this necessitated the body’s levitation – perhaps not an impossible feat during the moment of the Resurrection power-blast?  After all, the disciples had witnessed Jesus walking on water and were yet to see His levitating into the clouds!

Dame Isabel succinctly summarises:

We have a piece of cloth and it leads us to a mysterious gate which opens for us, and it lets us see a completely different world, an extraordinary world with extraordinary laws.

Consider these claims by reading those articles and watching this 19 minute of extracts from the DVD The Fabric of Time (with its own lead-in trailer). There’s also a discussion of her scientific opinion at In Case You Missed Isabel Piczek’s Wonderful Paper.

‘Coincidentally”, just after having read the last link and revised the preceding references to science (post published 5 years ago), I’m alerted to theoretical physicist Mehki’s new post on ‘black holes’ and ‘event horizons’ (see Looking to the Horizon). The discussion thread has a valuable contribution from ‘physicalrealityblog’ that’s pertinent to the Shroud site’s discussion of Dame Isabel’s analysis and indirectly reconnects it back into quantum physics!

PS. ‘Coincidentally’ amusing that bloggers ‘hidden’ on opposite sides of the world (Britain and New Zealand) were preparing items on the fabrics that Jesus Christ was buried with – the full-body shroud and the head linen – in Joseph of Arimathea’s private tomb. My post updated on Wed 12 was scheduled on Thurs 13th for auto-publication Sun 16 April. On Good Friday 14 April Joanne Rolston published news of the ‘Sudarium’ (see next post).

PPS (4 Sept’17) Read about bizarre anomalies in scientific instruments placed on the slab of stone in the Church of the Holy Sepulchre said to be have been where Jesus’ body lay: Scientists Who Opened Christ’s Tomb Detect Mysterious Readings That Support Shroud Theory

Link: The Shroud of Turin website

Good Friday Insights – part 1

The Cross at Ffald-y-Brenin, ‘miraculously’ provided and located as directed by the Lord.

Note: this from 2016 is republished as it leads into Thursday’s post on the Crucifixion and the directly related insights that blessed me this year..

Reflections upon the events of Jesus’ betrayal and execution whilst we were on a Quiet Day’s ‘Appointment in Jerusalem’, added to my ongoing meditation upon His prayer made not in the garden of Gethsemane, but after Passover in the upper room and offered up for Himself, the first disciples and every subsequent believer (John 17).

So my thoughts meandered around Jesus’ praying to Father that He’d “manifested Your Name” and for His disciples to see the glory He had with Father before the Beginning, as in my footnote to the word on Preparation for Enlargement.

Our modern concept of ‘name’ doesn’t convey the depth of meaning appreciated in biblical times. I recalled Hebrew and Semitic studies scholar Dr Michael S Heiser’s (bio) referring at Exodus 23:20-23 to the Angel of the LORD as having ‘Yahweh’s “Name” in him…which gives a glimpse of the Hebrew Bible’s ‘Name Theology’ in which reference to “the Name” actually refers to Yahweh Himself…Thus, ‘Yahweh indicates He is in the Angel…yet in other passages, Yahweh and the Angel can be simultaneously – but separately – present (Judges 6:11-26) [Old Testament Godhead Language].

That’s remarkably similar to the principle of quantum entanglement as noted On Engaging Time – yet is in the Bible!  He goes on to say the divine “Name” represents His presence, which is also God’s “essence”.

So over silent lunch with mind in ‘neutral’, an insight suddenly occurred to me and I noted it afterwards as an equation in my Bible’s rear fly-leaf.:

‘GOD’s NAME = HIS GLORY = EVERYTHING ABOUT HIM (KNOWN & UNKNOWN)’

Also, the last part is equivalent to:

‘NOT YET KNOWN  BUT BEING REVEALED IN AND ACROSS (ie. A +) TIME’

Now please note: in my mind I was going to write “in and throughout” but actually found myself writing “across”, which doesn’t make as much sense when considering the full continuity of time – BUT this change directly relates it to the Crucifixion.

From my earliest days of being ‘born again’ I’d heard about the Cross being pivotal in, and thus central to, human history. Now, however, I understood it’s existed throughout history from the very Beginning, and connected into the ‘mystery’ of ‘Fathers Own Objective’ that Apostle Paul revealed to the Ephesians, as noted in my intro to God’s Eternal Purpose.

I imagined the Cross’ horizontal beam s-t-r-e-t-c-h-i-n-g…r-i- g-h-t…a-c-r-o-s-s…t-i-m-e.

Next, I scribbled a cloud shape with arrows poking out of it to represent different epochs and wrote within its curvy outline, ‘Cloud of Unknowing’ (as in the title of the medieval book of Christian contemplative mysticism on the being and nature of God – see Wikipedia).

THEN right after jotting those notes and awaiting the first session after lunch, this famous Welsh hymn was played and I was transfixed by the chorus line,

“He can never be forgotten throughout heaven’s eternal days.”

Now, as I blog and search on Hebrew name theology I find a very informative article on ‘Ha Shem’ at Hebrew4Christians, to which is added this postscript:

‘The point of all this is to demonstrate that the “Name of the LORD” is none other than Yeshua (or Jesus). Yeshua = YHVH…The idea of “Name” means more that mere phonetics; it has to do with the deeds, acts, power, reputation and glory of God. Those who do not honor the Son do not honor the Father who sent Him (John 5:23). Denigrating Yeshua by even hinting that He is less than God Almighty is to desecrate the Name of God…’ (Divine Names Theology?)

The deep wisdom of that article is worthy of contemplative reflection. Yet it also speaks to me of another aspect of the Lord’s name relating directly to the Crucifixion, about which I’ll tell another time…(published Maunday Thursday 2017).

Also, yesterday Good Friday 2017  I was blessed with further related insights, which will be shared in Part 2.

‘Illusory’ free-will & science vs scripture & spirits

In this post I address some questions raised in a discussion thread on Rationalising the Universe but which are off-topic. Blogger scientists Joseph and Mekhi are open-minded in entertaining opinions as shown by raising ideas and topics on, or beyond, the fringes of material science. Read for example, What Am I For? and Science and God; a beautiful fusion or an unhealthy alliance?

Earlier this month a lively, informative discussion arose upon theoretical physicist Mekhi’s asking Is Free Will An Illusion?  She bravely ventures into a different form of matter – an immaterial one!  Mekhi opens her post:

“Whether or not we have a free will is an age-old question in philosophy: whether we are truly in control of our decisions and whether our future is an uncertainty, slowly carved out into a reality by our thoughts and actions today. Whether we have this free will is a question that has a popular appeal for it directly affects they way we see the universe and our place in it. Though what is it that makes us believe we truly are in control of our decisions and whether, when you’re faced with chocolate ice cream or vanilla, there really is a moment of genuine uncertainty before you choose the vanilla.

“Something inside us compels us to believe humans have free will….”

Spiritually-minded people recognise mankind’s possession of free-will as a gift from God because we are made with spiritual, moral, intellectual and emotional faculties: ie, we’re made ‘in His image’ and as His family. He did not create us to be mindless robots under His direct control. Therefore, free-will is a theological topic too, as well as being pertinent to other belief systems, philosophy, ethics and morality it is relevant in neuroscience, psychology and sociology.

Mekhi considers how classical and quantum physics can contribute to an understanding of free-will. Yet a problem lies in its being tied into scientists’ biased, or preferred, concepts associated with the twin belief systems of humanism and atheism. She concludes:

“Therefore it seems the only path we can follow to believe free will truly exists is to believe that somehow our minds behave in way that is superior to the direct product of the atoms that comprise them.. What basis we have for believing this I do not know.. but I believe I speak for all humans when I say something inside me compels it to be so – and that’s a scientist talking!”

What/Who Made ‘The Big Bang’ Bang?

Referring to the scientific conundrum of how the universe began, I point to inconsistency and ask about the apparent intelligence of sub-atomic particles from the perspective of quantum mechanics.

Another reader also picks up on and draws attention to the spiritual aspect of this topic. ‘Novus Lectio’ aka ‘BGC’, states “Free-will doesn’t stand in the realm of ‘matter’…it comes from the spirit”, refers to the brain’s reasoning processes and mentions references made to ‘something within’. I’d already noticed that and after Mehki’s negative response fill out BGC’s remark in saying her words indicate her own spirit, as well as pointing to use of language bordering on the religious.

Off-topic Discussion Points

A lively debate ensues! If you have time and inclination you may wish to read the article’s thread so you can appreciate its full flow. There are many fine debatable issues and here are extracts from the thread with off-topic points I believe warrant answering. I hope to do the discussion justice:

‘BGC’ makes an intriguing allusion to ‘scripture’ (March 13, 6:09 pm): ‘Yes I totally agree, the intuition comes from below our conscious awareness – but no calculation is performed due to the fact that we’re not the source of this intuition. If we were the source of it, we would call it “thought”.

‘In one of the Holy Scriptures God says: It is not for any human that God should speak to him, except by inspiration, or from behind a veil, or by sending a messenger to reveal by His permission whatever He wills. He is All-High, All-Wise. We thus inspired you spiritually, by Our command. You did not know what the Scripture is, nor what faith is, but We made it a light, with which We guide whomever We will of Our servants. You surely guide to a straight path. The path of God, to whom belongs everything in the heavens and everything on earth. Indeed, to God all matters revert….’

His protagonist ‘M’ offers his opinion and the debate continues but I notice this is from the qur’an and its claim and my subsequent discussion with BGC suggests he’s unclear as to how we can communicate with God and doesn’t realise spiritual beings, whether holy or demonic, have the ability to reason and communicate.

Eg, I respond (March 13, 5:56 pm): ‘Interesting thesis ‘BGC’ re, your “brain uses reason..spirit uses intuition” (reply to ‘M’) I partially disagree. Imho, the brain is just a tool to convey intuition and awareness of our spiritual life plus our link to God’s spirit . As we’re ‘made in his image’ with its free-will then we have a spiritual reasoning faculty to ‘discuss’ with our Father; as he says at Isaiah 1:18, “Come now let us reason together”…’

Also, in another reply, (Mar16, 5:49 pm): ‘Hence, my preference to analyse, query, test factual data – including scripture! – and accept the proven and hold theories lightly, rather than dogmatically make baseless assertions (emphasis added per comments below). I’ve been trained to discern between holy, human and unclean (demonic) spirits and deal with the last. My actual experience has verified the accuracy of what’s in the New Testament.

‘Thus, I disagree with your notion that free-will and rational processes are not used by immaterial or disembodied spirits. The Bible and Quran both report satan/iblis as having rational faculties, otherwise it wouldn’t have been able to rebel or tempt Jesus through power of persuasion. Also, Jesus referred to it as ‘The Father of Lies’. SO a spirit being has and uses its reasoning faculty! The main focus of such spirits’ activities is upon our human minds and thoughts.

‘BGC’ replies and asks (Mar 16, 7:08pm): ‘Hi Richard, I’m very surprised by your knowledge...I agree with most of what you said, “better to stick to attested facts of known events rather than conjecture of fictional films”. On the other hand, satan/iblis isn’t really described in the Quran except that it is made of a certain kind of fire (naturally not the human kind). So it’s not exactly a spirit is it?’

A fair question and I refer ‘BGC’ to this blog’s ‘Holy Fire’ tag, specifically the photos of More Focus on Holy Fire, which show the Holy Spirit flame upon people and a pair of seraphim, or burning ones.  As for the twisted rational faculties of demons, the New Testament records a few very brief instances of demons trying to reason with Jesus and their obedience to His commands.

Also, when I read the Muslim book I noted a similarity in style to a mediumistic-inspired book (or ‘automatic writing’) dictated by a ‘Jesus’ who belittles his disciples’ incompetence and misunderstanding of miracles. It pretends to tell where they went wrong and ‘how to perform miracles’.  Also, in denying the divine nature of Jesus, the qur’an is unhelpful as regards a born-again believer hearing the Lord, and is therefore not competent on the gift of prophecy and the office of prophet.  So I directed ‘BGC’ to dip into this blog’s hub on Prophecy (‘101’ here).

There is so much more I could add, but if anyone has a brief question please be free to ask and I shall respond as soon as possible…

‘Thin places’, a ‘quantum’ veil separating heaven and earth

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The ancient Celtic saints’ concept of sacred spots – where heaven touches earth – may have a scientific aspect as a ‘quantum’ veil says Phil Mason, author of Quantum Glory.

Our ‘current trilogy’ of another look at the meeting place of scripture and science now includes Phil’s article posted on his website on 11th September. In view of my recent reflections upon Greek meanings buried behind our English translations, I especially note his focus upon that too.

I didn’t include the post with other science-related posts at the time to avoid any possible intellectual indigestion. Even so, his seminal work had already been introduced in Does Extraterrestial Intelligence Exist? Part 1 & Part 2.

First, an intriguing definition of ‘non-locality’ (emphasis added):

‘Another of the remarkable features of the microscopic world prescribed by quantum theory is the idea of nonlocality, what Albert Einstein rather dismissively called “spooky actions at a distance” …‘Nonlocality describes the apparent ability of objects to instantaneously know about each other’s state, even when separated by large distances (potentially even billions of light years), almost as if the universe at large instantaneously arranges its particles in anticipation of future events….’ (The Physics of The Universe )

[Note: for more see NIST team proves ‘spooky action…’ is really real.]

Now over to Phil Mason:

QUANTUM GLORY: THE VEIL BETWEEN TWO WORLDS

Faced with the triple realities of quantum non-locality, the existence of God and the supernatural intervention of God we can move forward to theorise the relationship between these three fundamental realities of our supernaturally crafted universe. As we explore this dimension of non-local quantum reality in greater depth I will propose that this invisible layer of quantum reality acts as some kind of interface between the presence and power of God (who exists in the spiritual realm) and the world of matter.

The non-local quantum world appears to be some kind of invisible, intermediate ‘buffer zone’ between spirit and matter. It would appear that the non-local quantum realm has been strategically crafted by God to be directly responsive to the influence and activity of the Spirit of God so that these non-local quantum realities are capable of ‘materialising’ into a localised spatial formation. Quantum realities are the building blocks of matter. This is now an established scientific fact!

I have been exploring the nature of the creation of the heavens and the earth through the lens of quantum non-locality and the wave-particle duality. But before I can get to that subject, we need to delve deeper into this phenomena of quantum non-locality. I am proposing the simple theory that this twilight zone of quantum non-locality is the interface between two worlds. This is by no means an outrageous speculation in the light of trends in the scientific community.

Even purely secular physicists such as Richard Feynman, Stephen Hawking and many others have embraced an idea called the ‘Many Worlds Interpretation’ as a way of resolving the quantum paradox. Richard Feynman said, “I think we are forced to accept the Many Worlds Interpretation if quantum mechanics is true” (ref 1). Stephen Hawking is a big fan of this interpretation. In fact, in a poll of 72 leading cosmologists and quantum theorists 58% claimed to believe in the Many Worlds Interpretation (2). That is almost 6 out of 10!

This theory was developed by an American physicist called Hugh Everett. Everett argued that there is no such thing as the wave function collapse when it is measured by an observer. Instead the act of quantum measurement causes a splitting into two parallel universes: one in which the sub-atomic particle exists as a particle and the other in which it still exists as a non-collapsed wave. This theory has given rise to the science fiction popularisation of the concept ‘parallel universes.’ Scientists who have embraced the Many Worlds Interpretation have sought to explain the phenomena of the double-slit experiment as evidence that we live in a ‘Multiverse’ rather than a universe.

The Multiverse is a hypothetical set of possible universes that exist alongside one another in different dimensions, of which our physical universe is but one of a series of parallel worlds. I am not an advocate of the Many Worlds Interpretation because I believe in just two worlds: the world of spirit and the world of matter. But I wanted to make the point that the idea of parallel universes or merely the idea of another universe alongside our own is not an idea that is on the fringe of contemporary scientific thought. Many well-known scientists who have become popular authors subscribe to this view and actively promote it as a solution to the quantum paradox.

Jesus said, “My Kingdom is not of this world!” (3) The writer to the Hebrews indicates that Christ is the one through whom God “made the worlds” (4). Note that the term ‘worlds’ is plural not singular. We see this same term in a later chapter of Hebrews, “By faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that the things which are seen were not made of things which are visible” (5).

There are two worlds revealed in the Bible. Jesus frequently talked about this world and the world above. He said to those who opposed Him, “You are from beneath; I am from above. You are of this world; I am not of this world” (6). On another occasion He said, “I came forth from the Father and have come into the world. Again, I leave the world and go to the Father” (7). Clearly, Jesus revealed that there are two worlds. There is this material world and there is another world that is above and beyond this physical universe because it exists in another spiritual dimension.

‘THIN PLACES’

These two worlds are separated by a gossamer thin veil. They are continuously intersecting yet they are two entirely separate worlds. One is the world constituted by matter and the other is constituted by spirit. When Jesus walked upon the earth he displayed the supernatural powers of the world above which He identified as ‘heaven.’ Even when He was upon the earth He was still living in this other dimension called heaven. He said, “No one has ascended to heaven but He who came down from heaven, that is, the Son of Man who is in heaven” (8). The ‘Heavenly Man,’ Jesus Christ, displayed heaven on earth and revealed the kingdom of heaven everywhere He walked on earth. The gospels continually reveal His world breaking into our world.

The Bible talks about a ‘veil’ that separates heaven and earth. The book of Hebrews talks about entering “the Presence behind the veil” (9). Matthew, Mark and Luke all record that at the exact moment that Jesus died on the cross the veil in the temple was torn from top to bottom, prophetically symbolising that through the atonement of Christ the way had been made for humanity to pass “through the veil” (10) into this supernatural world called heaven. Elsewhere in the New Testament we encounter another interesting concept that appears to communicate a similar idea to the veil. Paul talked about a ‘mirror’ or a ‘looking glass.’ He said, “For now we see through a glass darkly, but then face to face” (11).

Paul picked up this idea again in his second Epistle to the Corinthians where he deliberately dove-tailed the twin concepts of the ‘looking-glass’ and the ‘veil.’ He taught that whenever someone turns to Christ the veil is taken away (12). He then proceeded to teach that those who have turned to Christ are now able to peer through the looking glass into heaven in order to behold the glory of God. “But we all, with unveiled face, beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are being transformed into the same image from glory to glory, just as by the Spirit of the Lord” (13). The obvious suggestion is that God is on the other side of the veil. He is on the other side of the looking-glass, peering into this world. We are in this material world but through Christ we can now peer through the looking-glass into heaven.

Next Invisible Jigsaw Pieces: ‘Thin Places’, Open Heavens, New Season in Wales

References:

  1.  Feynman is quoted in Frank J. Tipler: ‘The Physics of Christianity.’ p.6
  2.  http://www.hedweb.com/manworld.htm#believes
  3.  John 18:36
  4.  Hebrews 1:2
  5.  Hebrews 11:3
  6.  John 8:23
  7.  John 16:28
  8.  John 3:13
  9.  Hebrews 6:19
  10.  Hebrews 10:20
  11. 1 Corinthians 13:12
  12. 2 Corinthians 3:16

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Prophets and Quantum Physicists

A thought-provoking comparison that perhaps hints at deep similarities between these apparent opposites. Agree 100% with Franco’s closing point.:

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"Thoughts and Visions" collage. The prophet's bubble from a painting by Edoardo Rodriguez Caldazo. “Thoughts and Visions” collage. The prophet’s bubble from a painting by Edoardo Rodriguez Caldazo.

Theoretical physicists and quantum physicists are some of the scientists who attempt to pull back the veil and peak into the unknowable. In the Old Testament, that was the role of prophets. What I’m calling the unknowable, could probably be better phrased. Unknowable is not a good word here. What might be a better way to say it is to say that these people, seated in our four-dimensional world, are attempting to peer into the fifth dimension and beyond using the limited tools we have at our disposal. It is clear to me that the creator, through the Holy Spirit, is constantly broadcasting truth, inspiration which some are able to capture with our imagination, mind, and spiritual gifting. Some are aware of this source outside of ourselves, while others believe they are themselves the source. And…

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Dimensions 1 – Heavenly Coordinates

Now and again along our journey we’ve mulled over the meaning of time and the likelihood of scripture and science meeting over the horizon. Here, Franco Guerri brings a clear, concise introduction to dimensions and relates them to the Bible. In particular, his insight on the Cross and infinity is most noteworthy (see reply to Tim Shey). If this is your cup of tea then you may like to read > Dimensions 2 – Randomness and Ignorance.

One on one with Franco

Representation of the first four dimensions. (Wickipedia) Representation of the first four dimensions. (Wickipedia)

“In physics and mathematics, the dimension of a space or object is informally defined as the minimum number of coordinates needed to specify any point within it.”¹   It seems clear then, that God being infinite and eternal, or beyond time, would necessitate infinite “coordinates” to be defined.   By definition, in-finite, cannot be defined.   Hence He exists in infinite, un-limited dimensions.   Can we not say that the entire Bible is a document from beyond time and space attempting to give sufficient “coordinates” in order to reveal God Himself to a people trapped in only a few dimensions?

If our senses were limited to perceiving only a two-dimensional reality having only width and height, what would we understand of the three-dimensional world we coexist with?   Would a square express anything of what a cube is? When a sphere came through…

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Saving the Present

saving-the-presentContinuing our on-going foray into the nature of Time (and space) with another most informative summary and discussion of principles by Mekhi and participants, I’m reminded of Apostle Paul’s brief remarks about his own extra-dimensional experience, as recorded at 2 Cor 12 (Ha! – where else in view of my personal ‘212’ connection/experience, as in Reflection upon First Sundays in Advent).

Paul writes, “I know a man in Christ who 14 years ago – whether in the body or out of the body I don’t know, God knows – was caught up to the third heaven. And I know that this man…was caught up into paradise and heard utterances beyond the power of man to put into words, which man is not permitted to utter…”

Rationalising The Universe

Two months ago I posted on how the theory of Special Relativity refutes the idea of a flow of time or a universal present moment. You can read that post here.

Today as promised I put forward the arguments from modern-day Theoretical Physics which seek to push back and restore our intuitive notion of an objective passage of time and a universal now.

Two of these arguments come from, no surprises here – Quantum Mechanics (quantum theories and relativity theories have always been bitter rivals) however an argument can also be produced from General Relativity – Special Relativity’s big brother. I will present these arguments as briefly and as concisely as possible, but as we all know the workings of theoretical physics are far from simple so I hope the advanced readers amongst will not seek to crucify me too much over my wording at times. If you are so…

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The Atom and the Atonement: Why we need models in science and theology

Chemistry graduate Joe Ogden draws a fascinating comparison between the apparent contradiction of the Holy Trinity and that of wave-particle duality in quantum physics, plus other interesting insights.

Science and Belief

22735559622_042f742d34_kAtoms by Cezary Borysiuk. Flickr. (CC BY 2.0)

If you ask a 14 year old, an 18 year old and an undergraduate to describe an atom you will get different answers. Ask them to draw an atom, and the discrepancies become even more noticeable.  A 14 year old will have no issues producing an image like the one below. The undergraduate is likely to look at you quizzically. “Draw an atom? You must be joking!”

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Chemistry, much like the other sciences, relies upon models. As students progress through their chemistry education they are introduced to increasingly complex models of the atom. Each model is used to explain the various chemical observations that students encounter.

From age 11 to 16, students work with an atomic model that can provide an (adequate) explanation of why sodium chloride’s structure is composed of positive sodium ions and negative chlorine ions in a…

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Timing of listening to ‘Time’

G’day readers.

How did your day start as you got under way?  Do you notice time seems to have different speeds when you’re getting up? Sometimes I have to get a move on to beat the clock and be ready at a specific time. One day ‘hare’ minute-hand scoots along as tho’ haring around the ‘milestone’ circle – but another day it may saunter as though half awake, and ‘tortoise’ hour-hand lies huddled in its shell.:

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My childhood intro to time and different speeds!

Soon after starting my search for ‘truth’ when a young man, I read that time’s related to consciousness. So I noticed its measure may depend upon alertness.

Decades later and living at a more leisurely pace I notice this puzzles me. For example, in the bathroom I’m usually wide awake when swiping a razor around my face – rarely am I drowsy and, if needing to be on the move, I keep an eye on my watch as it sneakily heads for a deadline.

I’ve noticed differences on some days between how much I can get done in that early half-hour. Maybe my wrist-watch speeds up or down, or maybe it’s simply all down to my body-clock. Even so I’d agree with Justin Abrahams’ claim that, of its own nature, time does go at different speeds – maybe I get my own ‘time bubble’ in the bathroom!  But I’d much prefer to learn the practicalities of his claim to having done a two-hour wash, wax and polish of his car in half an hour!!

After posting the first announcement about Justin’s podcast on engaging Time in February I found the timing of my listening to it was intriguing!

podomatic-justin-abraham-time2My first attempt at listening on my phone failed to work. Not having done this on my phone before I found out later that the talk did download but I needed a better ‘ap’. Anyway, it was much better this way because it grabbed my attention when I was able to give it. Had it worked it would have distracted me from a personally relevant event at the conference I was going to.

At least a couple of aspects of what Justin teaches on that podcast were relevant to that event as well as to other recent things. First, I’m amused I’d been thinking of something from dim, distant days – “He who grieves most, grieves for wasted time”. It was one of many such quotations that had been used to prompt me to search seriously for the truth and meaning of life just before the famous Beatles turned into hippies and then got into transcendental mediation.

A Few Thoughts on ‘Time’

I hope anyone who followed my suggestion to listen to Justin’s podcast (here) didn’t find his excited assertions too daunting. Perhaps his approach is too ‘off-the-wall’ for some, yet his experiences and insights are worthy of due consideration and reflection.

Those of ‘glued-on’ adherence to the literal Bible text and fixed interpretation, according to whichever adopted translation is cleaved to, may have difficulty with his challenging but Biblically-based concepts. I very much like his familiarity with scientific concepts, from which most Christians shy away. It’s something I’d urge my brethren to get to grips with in order to marvel even more at Father’s handiwork.

Without being in any way dismissive, however, it would be interesting to see evidence for Justin’s claims regarding postage dates.  Also, as above, I’m ambitious to clean, wax and polish the car in such an unexpected short time-span as he experienced for two! 🙂

I recalled what Charles Shamp taught on the prophet Daniel travelling in time and seeing the stars at Jesus’ birth, thus leaving instructions on what the Magi should look for in the sky and why (Supermoon Monday’s ‘blood moon’ and The Age to Come refers).

Bobby Conner – Time Disappeared

Bobby_Carolyn_Conner_500pxAlso, I was reminded of what Bobby Conner said in Bath city about ten years ago. After returning from a trip, he phoned his wife Carolyn from the airport to let her know when to expect him home. It’s usually well over an hour’s journey, so his thoughts turned to the Lord whilst driving. Only twenty minutes later Bobby came to the junction for the road leading to their house – total time: under half hour!  Huh?

Miraculous, or a tall story? And is it Biblical??  My overview Eternity and Prophecy refer to three examples in scripture of time having been distorted and broken. And remember…

He has made everything beautiful in its time. Also He has put eternity in their hearts, except that no-one can find out the work that God does from beginning to end…

I know that whatever God does, it shall be forever. Nothing can be added to it, and nothing taken from it, God does it, that man should fear before Him.

That which is has already been, and what is to be has already been; and God seeks an account of what is pursued [so that history repeats itself – Amplified Bible]. (Ecclesiastes 3:11 Amp; 14-15 NKJV)

[Drafted early March 2016]

Does the present really exist?

Physicist Mekhi’s scientific definition of ‘now’ augments my previous post on Justin Abraham’s outline of relativity and time. Also, the diagram is helpful in illustrating his description of slices of time and ‘before the beginning’, or pre- and post-Genesis. Don’t overlook the ensuing discussion from readers.

Rationalising The Universe

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Now for our second exploration of time (if you missed the first you can find it here). The theory of relativity is our best theory of the macroscopic world. The theory of Special Relativity was introduced by Einstein in 1905 brought about a wide range of insights into the nature of reality including length contraction, time dilation, a universal speed limit of the speed of light and the relativity of simultaneity. It is the latter that shall…

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On engaging and governing Time – in the first 15 minutes…

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Justin Paul Abraham (credit Gloryrevolution.net)

…examples of time ‘miracles’ and outlines on time travel, time ‘slices’, time ‘bubbles’ and bending of time popped up in Justin Abraham’s teaching upon Time (see introduction). My near transcription/notes of the first quarter hour is below – parentheses and emphases of topics are mine.

Now and then he jokes with his audience about getting their brains ‘fried’, BUT they’re in good company!  It happens to experts too!  Mathematicians and scientists continue to be puzzled over the profound paradoxes of quantum physics. Phil Mason opens chapter three ‘Time and the Quantum’ of his book Quantum Glory (2010) as follows.:

A number of scientists who are kept awake at night perplexed by the counter-intuitive world of quantum mechanics have devised additional experiments in order to probe more deeply the bizarre attributes of the sub-atomic world…we need to note that these additional discoveries will totally mess with our heads concerning the nature of time itself…a significant key to understanding the quantum enigma hinges upon the issue of time as it relates to quantum space.

Justin relates Biblical prophecies to the science of relativity and quantum physics but first sets the scene to his in-depth lecture with scriptural backing. (Hence my inserting the full text of Ephesians 5:16 after Lion Bites’ Heavenly Time-Management in A prophetic word from God about Time….). So let’s dig in…

His teaching is based upon his recent course material on ‘new creation’ plus personal and others’ experience (eg his wife Rachel, Ian Clayton, Milly Bennitt  – as herehere and here – and on facebook). Claiming this session will be very helpful and change our lives (as with his family), Justin begins,

“This is a truth for our generation, because the Bible says, ‘Redeem the times…’ (Eph 5:16-17). So we can redeem time…’Redeem’ means to take (back) power from another…

“You, the ecclesia (church) are to govern – so is time governing you or are you governing time? ‘cos time is a substance!…When you ask someone what time is, not many people know what time is because we’re passing through it.

“Everybody used to think since Newton’s era that all of us are all in the same time at the same time and that time’s the same everywhere…what Einstein found was that time is relative, that time exists only for you as a person.

“He said the perception of past, present and future is “a stubbornly persistent illusion!” So have you ever been in a moment where you’re having a brilliant day but someone’s having a wasted day? So – they’re in a different time!

“It’s a different time on another planet to what it is here ‘cos it depends on your definition of time what time it is…Let’s say you’re on another planet around another sun, what time would it be? How would you define time there?

“I didn’t know time isn’t moving at the same time everywhere…(refers to film ‘Interstellar’ as illustrating how time works.)  Basically, time’s a stretchy fabric and you can shape time and stretch it so that we can do anything in time – time can bend – it’s a substance called the 4th dimension (space being the 3rd).

“Time is actually a substance that we can redeem the power of.

“Now in the Beginning Adam was in Eden and there he had what I call ‘rich’ time – there was no sweat, he was energised and everything’s done in rest and ease…So we’re meant to live out of Eden where there’s enough time to do what you need to do.

“So can time be stretched so you do in one hour what’s normally done in two? Can time be bent? Can time be stopped? Can you step out of time? These are what I want to look at…

“Your brain might already be frying but you need to learn about it, because everyone in this room’s got a relationship with time!

“What I want to do in this session is redefine your relationship with time so it becomes our servant and you govern time so it always works for you – and you have time miracles!!

(Justin claims to have had some ‘crazy’ time miracles since the Lord started teaching him about time but cites three, two of which Royal Mail time stamps are empirical evidence. – where somethings were sent and stamped as from the future but manifested before that in the recipient’s ‘present’ time – ie. had already been done beforehand, yet proven to come from the future and the goods thus obtained before the causative action! 

He says that news was posted on facebook and someone in the Royal Mail replied it’s a miracle because “the whole system is based upon those time-stamps”!  Also, another’s response was that since childhood the Lord had allowed them to travel in time and see events. This reminds me of the Chinese street urchins who’d seen events recorded in the Bible before they’d heard about them: see Visions Beyond the Veil – God’s Revelation to Children of Heaven and Hell by H.A. Baker.)

“It came from an encounter in heaven where I realised everyone arrived on time, although going at different speeds (gives example) – in the Kingdom time will fit what you want it to fit! The time doesn’t rule you, it expands depending upon how much space you need.

“The Bible says, ‘See that you walk circumspectly, not as fools but wise, redeeming the time because the days are evil’ (Eph 5:16)– ie. the days are ‘evil’, so since Eden we’re in ‘poor’ time…(As no-one else knew about this Justin invented his own terms for different kinds of time, and because…)

“The Lord’s been teaching me about time and showing me how different types of time can be in the same room…Ian Clayton would say to me “It’s strange: I’m getting a day’s work done in an hour now!”…I don’t understand it!

“It’s interesting when you have a time bubble someone can walk past you and not see it happening. (Cites personal examples of poor-time and rich-time distortion where energy is not lost.)

“If any man is IN Christ he is a new creation (2 Cor 5:17 and cf: Ian Cayton’s excellent teaching on what ‘in’ means: ie. ‘IN’: fully within Jesus’ whole being.) So you’re not from here, you’re not ‘terran’ as the earth’s going to pass away and you can’t define yourself as being from here…you’re born from above!

“God is looking for us to reveal Him, to become Sons so that we mirror Him in His divine essence – as we’ve born the image of earthly, so now we shall bear image of heavenly man. Now, if you’re in Him and He’s in you, what’s God’s relationship to time? He’s The Beginning and The End, the Alpha and Omega and He exists beyond time.

“It’s really interesting, all of time has already happened (according to science). So time in this era looks like a funnel post-Big Bang and then it’s made of ‘slices’ called space-time, which is like a loaf of bread! All of those slices already exist – all you’re doing is passing through your perception of where in the slice you are.

“This is why Moses could go back (to Creation); this is why John could go forwards (to see the New Jerusalem)…why David could pull the future into the past and have David’s Tent, which was the future era…why John could go right to the End and check a different time…why Isaiah could move forward in the timeline and say a virgin would give birth, and the suffering servant, the glory would come and that the earth will be transformed…

“So space-time exists and God’s in time and honours time and regards time as precious. The reason He invented it is so everything happens in its own space – that’s why we have space-time, time is not separate from space. They’re a grid we exist in, The reason He invented it is to allow, and we can enjoy, the richness of the moment – the alternative is that everything happens at the same time! – I know that’s strange to understand.

“God allows time but we’re not meant to be defined or limited by time – so we’re meant to know the times and seasons but it’s not about knowing which slice of time you’re in but of knowing The (appointed) Times, The Seasons…it’s about knowing where we are in the strand of DNA (spiral nature) that goes through time – the divine strand, the golden strand – knowing your place within it and your context within it and your relationship with time.

“So, we’re meant have an interesting relationship with it, to ‘taste the power of the Age to Come‘ – it’s a bigger creation than we’re in now and…it goes out like that (pointing)… we’re meant to ‘Taste’ of the power of the Age to Come, which means we pull from out of another creation (dimension?) backwards, which means time bleeds back.

“In Newton’s time we thought time was a river only going one way – we now know through quantum physics time it’s not going one way, it goes both ways (backwards and forwards) – it’s our perception of it that’s going one way! (Eg looking through telescope at light, that light in the past ‘knows’ you’re going to look at it and so it collapses.)

“If you didn’t look at it it would just be a wave pattern, but it ‘knew’ in the past that you were going to do it!!  So you’re looking at something changes the past!!

“I know that’s hard to accept but I’m teaching quantum physics here but it’s the truth – it’s called ‘the observer effect‘ – you collapse wave patterns into photons (strictly speaking – photons into waves or else particles, depending upon methodology; even if experimentally delayed!!) by observing them BUT it goes back into the past! (see glossary in introductory post).

“So you’re already distorting time. When prophesying you’re decreeing the future shaping earth around the future – you’re future gazing! You’re answering the ‘phone call’ (Jer 33:3) into the future, your tasting the power of the Age to Come! It’s interesting as we approach that changeover more of its bleeding back. So we had little bits of ‘bleed-back’ – like Enoch …who completed ‘the ring’ for he lived out of the End at the Beginning. Same with John… as you approach that Age, the mount of bleed-back gets thicker.

“In other words, where it says in scripture that ‘heaven is drawing nigh’ – so when David had the Holy Spirit before Acts 2 (Holy Spirit coming in power upon Jesus’ disciples) he pulled out of the future and put it in his own time…he already had the Holy Spirit in the past even though He hadn’t been given – which means you can choose which time-slice you live out of.

“SO which era of Christianity, or Son-ship, are you from?

“This is how I bend time and change stuff around me: I’ve decided that I refuse to live in the time that I’m in! The heroes of the faith did not live in their own time…Elijah, Cuthbert, Columba, (mystic leaders of the Celtic Church)…Enoch lived out of a different time.

“Enoch went back into Eden before the cross had happened, because it had already happened, because Jesus was crucified before – outside of time! All of time’s encoded with the record of the Crucifixion because it happened before the foundation of the world (Rev 13:8).  This is why the seven spirits (Isa 11:2) look omnipresent…

“If you think of this as a box called ‘The Beginning’ and then this bit outside it is ‘the before’. So there’s ‘The Beginning’ and ‘The Before’ …In the beginning, that’s when God created Wisdom and the other spirits (Isa 11:2), they exist there and that’s why they seem omnipresent, because they’re actually from a bigger dimension – but which dimension are you from?

“This is where it gets really interesting – that we were hidden in God in the Before the Beginning – so we actually exist as He is…This is why angels are different to us – they may be in different times depending on where they are in Creation…

“For example: as time’s like a fishing net and if you put a tennis ball in it the net wouldn’t be pulled much – that’s what gravity does. It bends time just a little bit like a light planet such as the moon, a heavy planet pulls the net and makes the days longer. So depending on which planet you live on, the days are a different length…(further explanation)

“So how do we move in time? As we spread into the Cosmos how will we define time?

“Remember all of Creation’s waiting for us (as Sons of God – Rom 8:19-22) which means, whether we accept this or not, earth’s just our cradle…where our infancy happened. We’ve got a Cosmic Mandate – ALL of Creation is waiting for the revelation of your Son-ship to free it from decay..(talks about immensity of the galactic ‘deep field’).

“I think God wants us to grow up! – He wants to be the definition – He’s the Chronometer -(NB: confirmation from Lion Bites prophetic word on Heavenly Time Management – which started this series!) – we come from Zion!

“The thing is, we’re all quantumly entangled into Him! This means we’re in Him and we exist in Him even though we exist here – that is where ground zero is for me….we don’t define ourselves by times or season because that’s to say the sun and moon govern us and we can only go as far as the headship we’re under. So do you define yourselves by them and want them, their influence, to be the governing body for you?

“And so God said to me,

“It’s time to master Time!”

Justin checked the meaning of ‘mastery’, diligently learned about the subject and noted, “Daniel saw that the antichrist, or the spirit that’s against the anointing of Christ, shall intend to change the set times and laws” (Dan 7:25). He then disclosed that,

“The first time I spoke about this I felt so bad I’d spoken on it that I sat down and said, ‘Lord I’m sorry, I must have gone too far’.

“And the Lord said, ‘If you don’t manage it, someone else will’.”

To hear what Justin says next listen to podcast at Podmatic/CoBH – Time.

On engaging and governing Time – introduction

Our consideration of the convergence of scripture and modern science begins with this expanded version of a post published on 18 February 2016. We’ll learn how the theories of relativity and quantum physics – under-girded by the ‘queen of sciences’, mathematics – may match the supra-natural nature of God’s word in the holy Bible. Attention is drawn in particular to the important concept at the concluding section – last but not least!

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This graphic is so apposite in view of my references to Time’s spiral nature, as in earlier posts on The Nature of Time and Eternity & Prophecy, as well as the mini-series on Time starting with Prophesy to 2014 and Talking to Time seems to work.

Most importantly I’d remind everyone that Jesus Christ is Lord of Time and so you may also like to read the prophetic word, “I Am The Lord Of Time”.

In an intellectually demanding session at Glory Revolution in Melbourne, Australia, Justin Paul Abraham talks about how he engages with TIME and how this fits in with the Word of God.

This of deep personal interest because of what I’d sensed of the ‘book beyond the Bible’s back cover’ – ie, The Age to Come (see On Eternity and Prophecy).

So, I tracked fully with him, listening a few times and recommend your taking time to listen to his Podcast here, as announced on Company of Burning Hearts. Justin attests this is life-changing material for Christians – it’s certainly cutting edge!

“This is a sweet truth that will liberate your days! You are  not a slave to time!”

He claims the Lord taught him the necessity of learning to master Time because when the antichrist comes he will attempt to change times and seasons (Dan 7:25 – ie. usurping the Almighty’s function of changing times and seasons, as at Dan 2:21). Justin was told that if he doesn’t stick with the difficulty of teaching it, then the Lord would use someone else!

For ease of reference my close transcript of the first quarter-hour is next. In the meantime – if you have opportunity. Savour the session’s full impact via the preceding link to the podcast. May the Lord bless your listening, weighing and waiting upon Him.

QUANTUM PHYSICS

As Justin refers to science and the ‘observer effect’ in quantum physics, you may find the following brief glossary helpful (emphases mine). Its startling discovery isn’t so ‘spooky’ to born-again Christians!

Light – small section of the electromagnetic spectrum (EM), all of which is measured in frequency of oscillatory wave motion. Renowned dual-slit experiment demonstrated that light is waves, or particles (ie. quanta; singular = quantum), or both!  Similarly for sub-atomic matter.

Counter-intuitive – earliest experiments revealed astonishing fact of quantum mechanics that light adjusts itself before, and according to, later experimental observation; thus affecting results and as though displaying intelligence!! (Known as ‘the observer effect‘.)

Sub-atomic particles Quantum Glory - cover‘It is a unique property of the quantum world that sub-atomic particles have the capacity of being in two places at the same time. In our macroscopic world of classical physics the last thing we would expect is to see someone bi-locate right before our eyes so that suddenly they can be in two places at the same time. Yet in the counter intuitive world of the quantum universe this is exactly what is going on all the time’ ‘Quantum Glory’ p 68, Phil Mason. (Also see link below.)

Tunnelling – quantum process whereby particles pass through impenetrable walls and barriers (like Jesus at John 20:19).

‘Without quantum mechanics’ explanation of how electrons move through materials, we would not have understood the behaviour of the semiconductors that are the foundation of modern electronics…would not have developed…microchip and modern computer… without the advances in our knowledge thanks to quantum mechanics there would be no lasers and so no CD, DVD, blu-ray players…would not have smartphones, satellite navigation or MRI scanners’  (‘Life On The Edge’ pp 21-22).

Entanglement“probably the strangest feature of quantum mechanics. It allows particles that were once together to remain in instant…communication with each other despite being separated by huge distances…its implications are so extraordinary that even Einstein refused to accept it, deriding it as “spooky action at a distance”! (Profs. Jim Al-Kahlili & Johnjoe McFadden, University of Surrey, Guildford, ‘Life On The Edge‘ p 30.)

Also, this from ‘The Nature of Reality’ by Stuart Clark and Richard Webb (New Scientist  24 Sept 2016) – for very good summation of six main problems in physics visit Intropy.

Solution 6 – Information

“…But entanglement does seem to be at the root of many mysteries, and the recent hints that it could be the warp and weft that holds space and time together. In that case what is entanglement? The best we can say is that it’s some sort of collective information shared between particles. That highlights a common theme in more cutting-edge physics: that understanding space-time, and the route to the more unified picture of nature generally, lies in treating information – not matter and energy – as the most fundamental thing in the universe and understanding better how it works.”

Particles sharing information across time and space – just a faint hint of how believers in Jesus are linked across heaven and earth to Him and our Father through His Holy Spirit.

NEXT > continue by reading a transcript of the session’s first 15 minutes >>>

For another briefing see this blog’s Does Extraterrestial Intelligence Exist?