Timing of listening to ‘Time’

G’day readers.

How did your day start as you got under way?  Do you notice time seems to have different speeds when you’re getting up? Sometimes I have to get a move on to beat the clock and be ready at a specific time. One day ‘hare’ minute-hand scoots along as tho’ haring around the ‘milestone’ circle – but another day it may saunter as though half awake, and ‘tortoise’ hour-hand lies huddled in its shell.:

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My childhood intro to time and different speeds!

Soon after starting my search for ‘truth’ when a young man, I read that time’s related to consciousness. So I noticed its measure may depend upon alertness.

Decades later and living at a more leisurely pace I notice this puzzles me. For example, in the bathroom I’m usually wide awake when swiping a razor around my face – rarely am I drowsy and, if needing to be on the move, I keep an eye on my watch as it sneakily heads for a deadline.

I’ve noticed differences on some days between how much I can get done in that early half-hour. Maybe my wrist-watch speeds up or down, or maybe it’s simply all down to my body-clock. Even so I’d agree with Justin Abrahams’ claim that, of its own nature, time does go at different speeds – maybe I get my own ‘time bubble’ in the bathroom!  But I’d much prefer to learn the practicalities of his claim to having done a two-hour wash, wax and polish of his car in half an hour!!

After posting the first announcement about Justin’s podcast on engaging Time in February I found the timing of my listening to it was intriguing!

podomatic-justin-abraham-time2My first attempt at listening on my phone failed to work. Not having done this on my phone before I found out later that the talk did download but I needed a better ‘ap’. Anyway, it was much better this way because it grabbed my attention when I was able to give it. Had it worked it would have distracted me from a personally relevant event at the conference I was going to.

At least a couple of aspects of what Justin teaches on that podcast were relevant to that event as well as to other recent things. First, I’m amused I’d been thinking of something from dim, distant days – “He who grieves most, grieves for wasted time”. It was one of many such quotations that had been used to prompt me to search seriously for the truth and meaning of life just before the famous Beatles turned into hippies and then got into transcendental mediation.

A Few Thoughts on ‘Time’

I hope anyone who followed my suggestion to listen to Justin’s podcast (here) didn’t find his excited assertions too daunting. Perhaps his approach is too ‘off-the-wall’ for some, yet his experiences and insights are worthy of due consideration and reflection.

Those of ‘glued-on’ adherence to the literal Bible text and fixed interpretation, according to whichever adopted translation is cleaved to, may have difficulty with his challenging but Biblically-based concepts. I very much like his familiarity with scientific concepts, from which most Christians shy away. It’s something I’d urge my brethren to get to grips with in order to marvel even more at Father’s handiwork.

Without being in any way dismissive, however, it would be interesting to see evidence for Justin’s claims regarding postage dates.  Also, as above, I’m ambitious to clean, wax and polish the car in such an unexpected short time-span as he experienced for two! 🙂

I recalled what Charles Shamp taught on the prophet Daniel travelling in time and seeing the stars at Jesus’ birth, thus leaving instructions on what the Magi should look for in the sky and why (Supermoon Monday’s ‘blood moon’ and The Age to Come refers).

Bobby Conner – Time Disappeared

Bobby_Carolyn_Conner_500pxAlso, I was reminded of what Bobby Conner said in Bath city about ten years ago. After returning from a trip, he phoned his wife Carolyn from the airport to let her know when to expect him home. It’s usually well over an hour’s journey, so his thoughts turned to the Lord whilst driving. Only twenty minutes later Bobby came to the junction for the road leading to their house – total time: under half hour!  Huh?

Miraculous, or a tall story? And is it Biblical??  My overview Eternity and Prophecy refer to three examples in scripture of time having been distorted and broken. And remember…

He has made everything beautiful in its time. Also He has put eternity in their hearts, except that no-one can find out the work that God does from beginning to end…

I know that whatever God does, it shall be forever. Nothing can be added to it, and nothing taken from it, God does it, that man should fear before Him.

That which is has already been, and what is to be has already been; and God seeks an account of what is pursued [so that history repeats itself – Amplified Bible]. (Ecclesiastes 3:11 Amp; 14-15 NKJV)

[Drafted early March 2016]

On engaging and governing Time – in the first 15 minutes…

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Justin Paul Abraham (credit Gloryrevolution.net)

…examples of time ‘miracles’ and outlines on time travel, time ‘slices’, time ‘bubbles’ and bending of time popped up in Justin Abraham’s teaching upon Time (see introduction). My near transcription/notes of the first quarter hour is below – parentheses and emphases of topics are mine.

Now and then he jokes with his audience about getting their brains ‘fried’, BUT they’re in good company!  It happens to experts too!  Mathematicians and scientists continue to be puzzled over the profound paradoxes of quantum physics. Phil Mason opens chapter three ‘Time and the Quantum’ of his book Quantum Glory (2010) as follows.:

A number of scientists who are kept awake at night perplexed by the counter-intuitive world of quantum mechanics have devised additional experiments in order to probe more deeply the bizarre attributes of the sub-atomic world…we need to note that these additional discoveries will totally mess with our heads concerning the nature of time itself…a significant key to understanding the quantum enigma hinges upon the issue of time as it relates to quantum space.

Justin relates Biblical prophecies to the science of relativity and quantum physics but first sets the scene to his in-depth lecture with scriptural backing. (Hence my inserting the full text of Ephesians 5:16 after Lion Bites’ Heavenly Time-Management in A prophetic word from God about Time….). So let’s dig in… Continue reading

On engaging and governing Time – introduction

Our consideration of the convergence of scripture and modern science begins with this expanded version of a post published on 18 February 2016. We’ll learn how the theories of relativity and quantum physics – under-girded by the ‘queen of sciences’, mathematics – may match the supra-natural nature of God’s word in the holy Bible. Attention is drawn in particular to the important concept at the concluding section – last but not least!

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This graphic is so apposite in view of my references to Time’s spiral nature, as in earlier posts on The Nature of Time and Eternity & Prophecy, as well as the mini-series on Time starting with Prophesy to 2014 and Talking to Time seems to work.

Most importantly I’d remind everyone that Jesus Christ is Lord of Time and so you may also like to read the prophetic word, “I Am The Lord Of Time”.

In an intellectually demanding session at Glory Revolution in Melbourne, Australia, Justin Paul Abraham talks about how he engages with TIME and how this fits in with the Word of God.

This of deep personal interest because of what I’d sensed of the ‘book beyond the Bible’s back cover’ – ie, The Age to Come (see On Eternity and Prophecy).

So, I tracked fully with him, listening a few times and recommend your taking time to listen to his Podcast here, as announced on Company of Burning Hearts. Justin attests this is life-changing material for Christians – it’s certainly cutting edge!

“This is a sweet truth that will liberate your days! You are  not a slave to time!”

He claims the Lord taught him the necessity of learning to master Time because when the antichrist comes he will attempt to change times and seasons (Dan 7:25 – ie. usurping the Almighty’s function of changing times and seasons, as at Dan 2:21). Justin was told that if he doesn’t stick with the difficulty of teaching it, then the Lord would use someone else!

For ease of reference my close transcript of the first quarter-hour is next. In the meantime – if you have opportunity. Savour the session’s full impact via the preceding link to the podcast. May the Lord bless your listening, weighing and waiting upon Him.

QUANTUM PHYSICS

As Justin refers to science and the ‘observer effect’ in quantum physics, you may find the following brief glossary helpful (emphases mine). Its startling discovery isn’t so ‘spooky’ to born-again Christians!

Light – small section of the electromagnetic spectrum (EM), all of which is measured in frequency of oscillatory wave motion. Renowned dual-slit experiment demonstrated that light is waves, or particles (ie. quanta; singular = quantum), or both!  Similarly for sub-atomic matter.

Counter-intuitive – earliest experiments revealed astonishing fact of quantum mechanics that light adjusts itself before, and according to, later experimental observation; thus affecting results and as though displaying intelligence!! (Known as ‘the observer effect‘.)

Sub-atomic particles Quantum Glory - cover‘It is a unique property of the quantum world that sub-atomic particles have the capacity of being in two places at the same time. In our macroscopic world of classical physics the last thing we would expect is to see someone bi-locate right before our eyes so that suddenly they can be in two places at the same time. Yet in the counter intuitive world of the quantum universe this is exactly what is going on all the time’ ‘Quantum Glory’ p 68, Phil Mason. (Also see link below.)

Tunnelling – quantum process whereby particles pass through impenetrable walls and barriers (like Jesus at John 20:19).

‘Without quantum mechanics’ explanation of how electrons move through materials, we would not have understood the behaviour of the semiconductors that are the foundation of modern electronics…would not have developed…microchip and modern computer… without the advances in our knowledge thanks to quantum mechanics there would be no lasers and so no CD, DVD, blu-ray players…would not have smartphones, satellite navigation or MRI scanners’  (‘Life On The Edge’ pp 21-22).

Entanglement“probably the strangest feature of quantum mechanics. It allows particles that were once together to remain in instant…communication with each other despite being separated by huge distances…its implications are so extraordinary that even Einstein refused to accept it, deriding it as “spooky action at a distance”! (Profs. Jim Al-Kahlili & Johnjoe McFadden, University of Surrey, Guildford, ‘Life On The Edge‘ p 30.)

Also, this from ‘The Nature of Reality’ by Stuart Clark and Richard Webb (New Scientist  24 Sept 2016) – for very good summation of six main problems in physics visit Intropy.

Solution 6 – Information

“…But entanglement does seem to be at the root of many mysteries, and the recent hints that it could be the warp and weft that holds space and time together. In that case what is entanglement? The best we can say is that it’s some sort of collective information shared between particles. That highlights a common theme in more cutting-edge physics: that understanding space-time, and the route to the more unified picture of nature generally, lies in treating information – not matter and energy – as the most fundamental thing in the universe and understanding better how it works.”

Particles sharing information across time and space – just a faint hint of how believers in Jesus are linked across heaven and earth to Him and our Father through His Holy Spirit.

NEXT > continue by reading a transcript of the session’s first 15 minutes >>>

For another briefing see this blog’s Does Extraterrestial Intelligence Exist?

On eternity and prophecy

Re-published from this blog’s Cycles and Time hub as third background item for soon upcoming posts on the convergence of scripture and science:

In the beginning God, (He) created the heavens and the earth. The earth was without form and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters. Then God said, “Let there be light!”, and there was light. And God saw the light, that it was good; and God divided the light from the darkness. (Genesis 1:1-4 NKJV)

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. (John 1:1-2 NKJV)

A few thoughts:

CREATION

‘In the Beginning…’ not only means God and Jesus and Holy Spirit existed at the start of time but also implies they existed before the Beginning. That is, the Holy Trinity exists outside the creation of our known four dimensions of space-time.

The Holy Bible is God’s revelation of His Story from the beginning to end of our created world, of specific historical actions and of events foretold but yet to take place.

ETERNITY

When Jesus unexpectedly burst – uninvited – into my life I realised that someone whom I’d thought of as only a historical personage, or supposed New Age Teacher, is still very much alive!  His existence must, therefore, be outside our space-time continuum in a dimension beyond ours = heaven and eternity.

Since that life-changing night-time visitation in 1989 He’s blessed my with a hint of that supra-dimension:

AGE TO COME

Revival 1: Glory Stories tells about what I sensed from the Lord in Winchester and then in Bath city some years ago. The distinct  impression was of the existence of the equivalent of a new book to be written beyond the Bible’s rear cover; ie. after the Book of Revelation. Maybe it exists as a thought in the Almighty’s mind before it’s eventually decreed and then comes into actual existence? (Rather like Abraham and the patriarchs ‘waited for the city which has foundations, whose builder and maker is God’ – Hebrews 11:9-19.)

That is, this invisible, immaterial book would continue Revelation’s closing prophecy of the physical manifestation of a new earth and new heaven with the City of God. It could mean eternity will be merging into time, heaven coming to earth at long last – the ‘Age to Come’.

OR, maybe this is something the Lord will unravel and open for the ecclesia (Church) to learn about and understand?

TIME DISRUPTIONS

The following scriptures give examples of time being discontinuous, when it was:

  1. Stopped – on that unique day when the sun and moon stood still as Joshua fought the Amorites and their allies (Joshua 10:12-14).
  2. Went back – When king Hezekiah lay sick the Lord promised to lengthen his life by 15 years and gave as a sign the shadow of a sundial going backwards; or the sun’s rays were affected to bend the shadow (Isaiah 37:5-8).
  3. Split – according to the fulfilment of the ’70-weeks’ prophecy the Lord gave Daniel, of which 1+62 weeks (years) were to be continuous until the arrival of Jesus. The final 7 weeks would follow at an unspecified time in the future (Daniel 9:20-25). It is this ‘end-time’ of 7 years that’s awaited with great anticipation and expectation.
PREDICTION

This comes by the unction of the Holy Spirit to prophesy and which conveys what’s on the Lord’s mind for His people at the present time or which He will bring about. As with Apostle John, maybe some OT and NT prophets were also able to enter the supernatural, eternal realm to perceive future events from that dimension? (See Prophecies & Visions hub.)

Coming next: a prophecy for physicists followed by an introduction to the scriptural and scientific aspects of engaging Time >>

2017, the significance of 70 years and Wigglesworth vision

Upon reading the full transcript of Malcolm Duncan’s message it resonated deeply within my spirit – as well as directly relating to personal experiences. Please bear with me as some of it necessitates reiteration.

Revd Malcolm DuncanWe should note Malcolm’s reservations mirror those of Wigglesworth’s contemporaries over his unorthodox, questionable ministry methods – but whatever the Lord wanted to heal or expel got accomplished. (Bobby Conner recounts his astonishment at seeing a dubious church leader in Jesus’ presence but being rebuked because he’s the Lord’s servant!)  Malcolm’s remarks upon weighing what the Lord may be saying is an object lesson in the prophetic. NB:

“…Denis shouted “And brother I came into the kingdom in 1947” and the minute he said it I thought, “I think God is saying something to me”.
“I think Denis…he used you as a prophetic voice…So what came into my head was “the Smith Wigglesworth prophecy of 1947”.
“I turned to Pauline and said, “Did Smith Wigglesworth prophesy his prophecy in 1947?”, and she said, “I don’t know but I was born in 1947”.
“But as soon as I heard Denis I thought of the Smith Wigglesworth prophecy, which was very unusual for me and made me think, “What are you saying Lord?” I went back and I read it again and thought – “There is something stirring in my spirit here.” (Emphasis added)

Pauline’s reaction is mine too for I always recall that vision’s year is my birth year. Also, the timing of 50 years until my witnessing his prayer partner’s ecstatic joy at also seeing what will be happening across the British Isles is etched in my memory, as told in the previous post.

Yet there’s another reason – and it connects into Malcolm’s thoughts on 70 years as being significant. AND I can offer what he doesn’t – a confirmatory explanation! He said,

“2017 is 70 years after the prophecy was given. 2017 is also 50 years after Jean Darnall’s prophecy, which was given in 1967, when she saw little fires across the UK ablaze and then a river flowing through the UK and into Europe…

“Is God saying something with these two things? The 50th year after Jean Darnall’s prophecy, a year of jubilee. The 70th year after Smith Wigglesworth prophecy, just like there were 70 years of captivity for Israel…I feel like Daniel must have felt like when he found Jeremiah’s promise after 70 years and said, after 70 years I am going to do something.

NOW, this leads into something I’d intended to finish relating to revelations upon timings received last April.  I will be more concise than when I was trying to formulate and clarify what I was learning.:

Charlie ShampOn Good Friday 2015 Charles Shamp taught on the coming September’s fourth blood-moon as marking the beginning of the time of the Army of God. He believes it starts a two-year period that’s open for all believers, but especially for a glorious company praying things from the Age to Come. Thus, the two years until September 2017 will be an extra-special period, not judgmental and destructive.

The details are recounted in A Scriptural context of…the Blood-Moon Tetrad; and under ‘2015 Feast of Tabernacles Blood-Moon’ header in its follow-up post I reported Charlie’s reasons. Those posts were written last September, but the first ones on that Passover-Easter conference appeared a year ago this month. Furthermore, I blogged about the personal significance of 40 and 55 year periods in ‘God-incidents’ Validate Cycles and Point to Near-Future.

70-Years Period

I didn’t, however, explain the personal relevance of 70 years to 23rd September 2017.

As in those posts, Charlie relates that date to the prophet Daniel’s forecast and bequest to the Magi of his revelation on ‘The Star of Bethlehem’; a reappearance of which is expected in astronomical stellar and planetary alignments of 23.9.2017 (note: not astrology!). More specifically, this future event relates to Revelation 12:1 – John’s vision of the woman clothed with the sun. (For more read Nelson Walters Who Is the Woman of Rev.12?)

My reaction was – “My 70th birthday’s the day before!”.  So the 23rd September 2017 will start a new 70-year period for me.

70 is a biblically sacred number the two factors of which are perfect numbers, 7 and 10 representing perfection and completeness respectively. As such, it symbolizes perfect spiritual order carried out with all power, and can also represent a period of judgment (courtesy BibleStudy.org, which gives other examples to those Malcolm cites). Also, Jewish scholars teach that ‘The Torah has 70 Faces’, or levels of interpretation!

Last year saw 70th anniversary celebrations over the end of World War II, and other occasions. 2017 will be the 70th anniversary of crucial events in the birth of the state of Israel. In A Few Thoughts To Mark the Occasion of the 67th birthday of that state, Joel Rosenberg writes about a critical occasion in 1947 on the UN Partition Plan for Palestine upon the British withdrawal from that Mandated Territory, as follows:

‘To succeed, the Partition Plan needed a two-thirds majority vote of the U.N. General Assembly. With just days to go before that historic vote on November 29, 1947, however, supporters of the plan were still three votes short. Some have suggested that President Truman personally called leaders of other nations to encourage them to support the American position. Others say he didn’t but that staff in his administration did; the record is not clear. Either way, most historians—including David McCullough, who won the Pulitzer Prize for his extraordinary biography Truman—acknowledge that Truman wanted the plan to pass and played a role behind the scenes. In the end, Truman got his way. The Partition Plan dramatically passed at the last moment, thirty-three to thirteen, with ten abstentions’.

2017 – Unity

Malcolm Duncan gives his reasons for 2017 being a significant year and seeing a move of God in the UK, for which he believes God is asking us to get ready in many ways. I will cover this essential aspect in another post…

By the way, Erik Hadik, the financial analyst I occasionally blog about, gave this forecast last June on 2017:

‘The culmination of so many diverse cycle in 2017 keeps receiving powerful validation. For instance, the convergence of 8-year, 17-year and 40-year cycles – all related to China – have been forecast to accelerate into 2017.’

We shall see what we shall see…

Lion Bites reveal encouraging theme from the Lord

Lion_Roars_email_logo_HIGHERIf you’re a regular subscriber to daily ‘Lion Bites’ from Glasgow Prophetic Centre maybe you’ve noticed their team picks up specific themes from the Lord?  Often they’re at the top of my email’s in-tray listing and so it’s first in my attention. Occasionally an individual word harmonises with other email. Often, I notice the thread of a theme in a tapestry the Lord is weaving through the Glasgow team.

Their vision of circling eagles in Gathering of Eagles hit me direct in view of its personal importance, as revealed in footnote links. The exhortation to focus our prophetical eyes motivated me to tackle outstanding commentaries upon prophetic words and messages Charlie Shamp and Neville Johnson had delivered. Continue reading

Neville Johnson 2: the ‘BIGGER picture’ of post-blood moon era

And we know that all things work together for good to those who love God, to those who are the called according to His purpose. For whom He foreknew, He also predestined to be conformed to the image of His Son, that He might be the firstborn among many brethren.

Moreover whom He predestined, these He also called; whom He called, these He also justified; and whom He justified, these He also glorified.

What then shall we say to these things? If God is for us, who can be against us? He who did not spare His own Son, but delivered Him up for us all, how shall He not with Him also freely give us all things? (Romans 8:28-32)

But God, who is rich in mercy, because of His great love with which He loved us, even when we were dead in trespasses, made us alive together with Christ (by grace you have been saved), and raised us up together, and made us sit together in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus, that in the ages to come He might show the exceeding riches of His grace in His kindness toward us in Christ Jesus.  (Ephesians 2:4-7) [Scriptures courtesy of Thomas Nelson Inc and Blue Letter Bible]

[Those introductory verses were jotted before last week’s quiet day that ‘just happened’ to touch upon them, as in the previous post.]

Hopefully the meditative morning coffee and my sharing about last week’s significant quiet day will act as contemplative interludes bridging my comments on Charlie Shamp and Neville Johnson, and between two posts on Neville’s August visit to California.

Anyone concerned about Neville’s dismissal of pre-Tribulation rapture, as in his first message, is directed to an excellent discussion on this ‘American’ theology by Nelson Walters in Simplified Evidence for Rapture Timing.

After the warnings in his first message, let’s now consider the more positive follow-up in session 6.

Neville starts by saying,

“Exciting! – We really need to know what we’re fighting for. You know, it’s not good enough to get into a fight unless we really know what we’re really fighting for. Right?

“So we need to see the BIGGER picture! It’s important to understand that… What are we fighting for? …What is it about?

“You’re fighting for a new America that will usher in the Millennium Age of Christ – a brand new world…a world where Jesus will be the head of and running it!”

He refers to having been blessed with seeing glimpses or excerpts of the Millennium: an incredible world. However, according to Revelation there’s a lot of cleaning up to be done, defiled cities will fall because they can’t be allowed to enter the Millennium.

“We are fighting for this planet. God gave this planet to Adam but he lost it and we’re going to retake it! His assignment was to bring heaven to earth…

“You’ve got to see the bigger picture – this is all worth fighting for. What we’re fighting for is the Millennium. Decadence will not be allowed to exist in the Millennium!”

Notes on the Message

As in part 1, this selection of my notes (1) gives a flavour of what Neville says and (2) enables comparison with Charlie Shamp’s remarks on 2015-20 and scriptural context of the recent blood moon as well as mine on the Age to Come (all as herein). For ease of reference [numbers] denote approx. elapsed time.:

  1. We have an incredible future: God is going to fill this world with His presence and His people and it will be better than heaven – “And that’s just a beginning!” [6]
  2. 1969 moon landing’s ‘leap’: prophetic sign for mankind as Charismatic movement followed that shook Catholic church – and Neville’s! [8]
  3. What now? God’s signpost in Solar System: ‘New Horizons’ spacecraft took 9yrs to get to Pluto, 9th planet at end of Solar System = we’re getting to the end of this dispensation. No 9 used 49 (7×7) times in Bible and conveys meaning of finality – God’s completeness [12]. 9 = end of an era & beginning of judgement. Israel’s last king reigned 9 yrs: “he that has ears to hear”. [17]
  4. WE’RE NOW ON FINAL LAP TO CONSUMMATION OF THE AGE – to be 7 times greater outpouring of Holy Spirit than at Pentecostal birth of Church. [15]
  5. Church is appointed to tribulation (as now?: RB) but not wrath of God, when the world will be physically changed – we’re coming back to a perfect world. [18]
  6. “The Lord began to speak to me about how we’re to change, to be transformed by being more heavenly minded…next step is holiest place of all and needs our going through transfiguration…Jesus was transfigured in His flesh and it changed Him for new things and we’re to be physically transformed so we can handle powers of the Age to Come!” The more heavenly minded we become the less the attraction of the world. [21]
  7. 2 Cor 5:20, Phil 3:20, Col 3:1 – As Christ’s ambassadors our citizenship is of heaven and, being risen with Christ, we should seek those things which are above. [25]
  8. God gave us the privilege of coming here and we’ve got to make our lives count for the time we’ve got left – can’t/mustn’t lose sight of that! [29]
  9. This is KEY – it must become a daily reality, we must let our minds be renewed, lose grip with earth, thereby heavenly realm opens and becomes accessible. [30]
  10. We’re fighting for restoration of this planet and bringing it back under rule of God. [32]
  11. It’s what we become – not have done – that counts ie. how much we become like Jesus and the Age to Come [34] determines our role in eons to come [43].
  12. As evil matures in the earth and will be reaped – the gross darkness, people will be terrified and come to our light. [52]
  13. This year’s Feast of Tabernacles (28th Sept) is going to bring change. [54]
  14. Jesus is going to reveal Himself through His people first before He returns – check scripture re. disciples going to Feast of Tabernacles without Jesus, for He went in secret but disciples openly. [55]
  15. Tabernacles ushers in new dimension that begins at this blood moon – door will open to combine fullness of Passover and Pentecost and ushers in new dimension. [1:00]
  16. The mind needs to be sanctified and renewed by removal of untruths learned in our lives – needs to be consecration of mind to Lord like never before. [1:40]
  17. If we’re to enter Tabernacles it will require greater dedication and consecration to  open whole new level of consciousness and physical conditioning before powers of Age to Come open up. [1:43]

On these matters I’d draw attention to an interactive vision Neville had in 2010, on video staring at 1:44:20:

“…in which I found myself on a boat at sea – and it was as real as this (pointing to platform )…and I was at the back of the boat and I looked at the front of the boat and Jesus was standing at the front of the boat and I thought, ‘That’s ok, the Lord’s here – everything’s fine!’

“I was watching as the Lord opened a very ornate chest…I saw Him take an instrument out of the chest and it was a sextant…(explains this non-satellite’s use for finding ship’s position at sea).

“It went ‘click’…the Lord locked the sextant on the horizon and then He looked up and went ‘click’, taking a bearing on a star – and I knew that star was Venus, don’t ask me how I knew, but I knew it was Venus…

“I noticed there were 14 segments on the sextant. I looked at the Lord and He looked at me and He said:

“The time spoken in the Word regarding the Morning Star is beginning NOW!”

“I thought ‘ok’ and He said,

“The Morning Star will arise over the next 14 years and become brighter and brighter.” He said,

“I will arise in My people like never before, and at evening time it shall be light.”

“I knew that last was a scripture but couldn’t figure out where until I came out of this – it’s Zecharia 14:7… but what does it mean? He said to me,

“Transfiguration will start in many of My people and they will become truly lights of the world.”

Zecharia 14 refers to ‘the Day of the Lord’ and in the NKJV verse 7 reads,

It shall be one day
Which is known to the Lord
Neither day nor night.
But at evening time it shall happen
That it will be light.

The Word of Prophecy

Only now do I notice that Neville talks about the ‘Morning Star’ quoting a reference of personal relevance that I’d completely forgotten about. At 1:47:55 he reads 2 Peter 1:19 as follows:

“We have a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawns that the star rises in your heart.”

[That particular verse was one of the very few referred to by the initiatory mystical group I studied under before I was rescued from Satan’s domain. Presumptuously they used it to suppose they’d attained a special level of transcendent knowledge. But it was nothing of the sort compared with true prophecy that comes by God’s Holy Spirit. It’s abundantly obvious had the verse’s full context been considered. Shortly after the Lord rescued me I asked Him about that group as I opened my Bible. It fell open and I was transfixed by 2 Peter 2:1 – ie. just a few verses on from those abused ones, as told in this part of my testimony.]

Now, Neville asks what verse 19 means and reminds us that Peter was referring to his awesome experience years previously when he saw the transfiguration of Jesus. (As  in accompanying text of verses 15 to 21 shown at the foot of this post.)

Apostle Peter maintains his mission is true and valid because; 1) he witnessed Jesus’ glorious transfiguration, 2) he has the word of prophecy bestowed by Holy Spirit and which is not for private interpretation (as that group presumed!). Neville notices the juxtaposition of those two principles and submits that they’re not only relevant to that vision of 2010 but also specifically reveal what the Lord’s now doing in His people.

Therefore, I submit that Neville’s profound message is worthy of careful consideration and prayerful application.

2 Peter 1:15-21

‘Moreover I will endeavour that ye may be able after my decease to have these things always in remembrance. 16 For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty. 17 For he received from God the Father honour and glory, when there came such a voice to him from the excellent glory, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. 18 And this voice which came from heaven we heard, when we were with him in the holy mount. 19 We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts: 20 knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. 21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.’ [Authorised KJV, courtesy BibleGateway.com]

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Neville Johnson: 1 – last blood moon ushers in new era

Arise, shine;
For your light has come!
And the glory of the LORD is risen upon you

For behold, the darkness shall cover the earth,
And deep darkness the people;
But the LORD will arise over you,
And His glory will be seen upon you.
(Isaiah 60:1-2 NKJV)

For the earnest expectation of the creation eagerly waits for the revealing of the sons of God. (Romans 8:19 NKJV)

Thank you to all subscribers and visitors for making Urgent prophetic words about a cut-off date on God’s time-line, as delivered by Neville Johnson, one of the year’s top three  blogs. I first heard about him when Paul Keith Davis referred to a prophetic vision he’d had circa 2007-8 of the Days of Noah happening in our time. Almost simultaneously, his friend Neville had the same experience – details in second section of this post.

Neville was once again a main speaker at this year’s Lancaster Prophetic Conference in California hosted by Shekinah Worship Centre. I quoted his insights into recent globally significant meetings in New York as regards the false church.

In my humble opinion his teaching throughout three sessions deserves careful study.  In opening the first he remarks,

“I’m going to tell you the truth because, you know, the Bible says ‘You shall know the truth and it will set you free’ and the days in which we’re living are awesome days, they are  frightening days (RB: ie. for unbelievers).  We can’t go through life saying ‘Hallelujah, everything’s great!’ – everything’s not great unless you’re walking closely with the Lord!

“You know, it’s the goodness and the severity of the Lord – there’s light and there is darkness – we need to understand the days in which we’re living… dangerous times but glorious times…”

Upon replaying I now note his quoting Hebrews 11:7, which is also in my opening reference to faith relating to ‘Age to Come’ and the blood moon, as herein.

“By faith Noah, being warned of God of things not as yet seen, moved with fear to prepare an ark for the saving of his house, by which he condemned the world and became the heir of the righteousness which by faith.”

“So if Noah is hearing God he didn’t just say, ‘Trust God’ he had to do certain things which, if he didn’t, he wouldn’t survive. Are you hearing me?

“That word ‘warned’ signifies and implies if we don’t hear what God is saying we’re going to be in jeopardy…the word ‘fear’ in Hebrew means not normal word for fear but to be circumspect, to be prudent and to be  careful…”

Neville continues stressing the importance of understanding what’s going on in these present days and the need to ‘trust and obey’ and emphasises avoiding dire results of erroneous church teaching. For example, he refers to the dreadful mistake during the Boxer Revolution in China and, therefore, that pastors need to tell their people the truth about what’s happening.

Notes on the Message

I’m pulling out pertinent scribbles from my notes on those first two sessions to (1) give a flavour of what Neville said; (2) enable comparison with Charles Shamp’s prophetic and oral teaching in January and April respectively. Numbers denote approx. elapsed time for reference purpose (emphasis on ‘Enoch’ re. blood moon Hebrews 11 quotation).:

  1. the church – not the people or gov’t – must take responsibility for nations forsaking commandments and principles of God and because it didn’t in the West, it got trampled underfoot by ungodly men – BUT there is some good in all this [9]
  2. God has already given an extension of time for getting things right – but this comes to an end next month (ie Sept 2015) – time has run out [10]
  3. we must know God’s nature – He is above all good and loving and extends time of rather than bringing judgement – [as in days of Noah when Enoch foresaw what was coming and Methusalah was born yet the Flood wouldn’t come until he died – 26]
  4. churches doesn’t know the times; unable to see what’s coming over the horizon
  5. the world is to see Jesus revealed through us before He comes in order for us to bring in the harvest [13]
  6. vision of volcanic activity in Yellowstone Park
  7. vision of a lynchpin being pulled out of a huge wheel with a resultant collapse – something happening this month (Aug) will trigger what happens in Sept [23]
  8. Like Enoch we need to walk with God as we’ve seen what’s coming [27]
  9. Grace is coming to enable us to walk with God as it’s going to be lot worse than in the days of Noah [29]
  10. As in Acts 2:20 sun darkened and moon turn to blood and whomsoever calls on the God will be saved; ie. church not raptured needs to be saving souls [31]
  11. Blood moon tetrad taking us into new dispensation
  12. God is going to give us great authority against opposition [1:03]
  13. 2Thess1 – don’t be disturbed or deceived – we’re going to be here when antichrist revealed – not raptured [1:05]
  14. Great apostasy – Lord clearly showed a 3-stage falling away as the church gets smaller but brighter – having been taught lies many Christians will fall away – ie. the tares will be taken out of the church (not world) [1:08] NB: confirms first email.
  15. God isn’t going to fulfil our dreams but HIS for very few can be trusted with wealth – need to sow now and get Lord’s provision when necessary [1:14]
  16. False prophet and false church [from 1:15 mins – as reported in this blog]
  17. coming economic collapse will be much worse than previously with storms of unrighteousness – mobs attacking churches to be repulsed as in Sodom [1:22]
  18. early Church kept all the Feasts except for Tabernacles. This last blood moon ushers in a new era that we’re now entering into. It brings us to the end of the age
  19. United Kingdom – judgement but will become End-time spiritual empire [1:27] – even better than charismatic period in 20th Century [1:35]
  20. A new kind of grace will be available after this Feast of Tabernacles [1:44]

I trust you will be blessed by listening to the Lord as you watch this Session. Neville’s second message is much more upbeat. As mentioned before, he teaches in depth on the necessity of being heavenly minded in order to see The BIGGER Picture’ God has for His children and for the new earth, now and in the near future – the Age to Come!

What! No ‘pre-Trib’ rapture? See succinct, scriptural summary by Nelson Walters in Simplified Evidence for Rapture Timing, plus discussion.

Part 2 on Session 6 follows but first read introductory Not blogging but the Lord…

See Fulfilled prophecies: 4 on how this message applies to November 2015 attacks in Paris, France.

Meditative morning coffee

Fresh CoffeeMulling over the content of the latest post upon awakening I knew which scripture would act as a bridge to follow-up teaching from Neville Johnson. (I didn’t expect yet another instance of what I’d noted of Charlie Shamp’s New Year word on the increase in prophetical sight and comprehension.)

It would be sensible, however, to check that verse’s context and so I dug into Romans chapter 8. And so I invite you to check and meditate along with me. I trust this will enable a good grasp of both posts. Here’s the NKJV text of Romans 8:14-22 with relevant and associated verses underscored:

‘For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, these are sons of God.  For you did not receive the spirit of bondage again to fear, but you received the Spirit of adoption by whom we cry out, “Abba, Father.”.

‘The Spirit Himself bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God, and if  children, then heirs—heirs of God and joint heirs with Christ, if indeed we suffer with Him, that we may also be glorified together. For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us.

‘For the earnest expectation of the creation eagerly waits for the revealing of the sons of God. For the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of Him who subjected it in hope; because the creation itself also will be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.

‘For we know that the whole creation groans and labors with birth pangs together until now. Not only that, but we also who have the first-fruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, eagerly waiting for the adoption, the redemption of our body.’

[Courtesy of Thomas Nelson Inc and Blue Letter Bible]

In reading the chapter I especially noticed several other foundation points about living and walking not according to the flesh but to the Holy Spirit. This means we’re very different to those who are carnally minded. They’re figuratively ‘the walking-dead’ for they’re not blessed with the indwelling Holy Spirit, per verses 9-11:

‘But you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. Now if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he is not His. And if Christ is in you, the body is dead because of sin, but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.

But if the Spirit of Him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, He who raised Christ from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through His Spirit who dwells in you.’

Contemplating the depth of Apostle Paul’s exposition I let those word soak into me, especially regarding suffering and what we’ve endured this year and previously.

Afterwards used my phone to log into WordPress (blog platform). It’s not an entirely  satisfactory method of blogging so gets rarely used other than for a quick check of my site’s appearance so I can see what some visitors will see.

This time I did something really unusual – I drilled down into yesterday’s statistics and looked at something I’ve never bothered with! It has various listings the lowest placed being ‘Clicks’. It seems this shows which links I’ve placed within the blog were clicked by readers to access those websites. I decided to follow one of them to see what my visitors would have seen – it’s ‘080808’.

It’s one I haven’t myself visited for a while and is a listing of revival prophecies for the British Isles opens by blogger by Chris Welch. His motto’s exactly appropriate for our consideration of ‘The Age to Come’.:

“Prepare for an adventure into the unknown, into a type of Christianity that has never been known before…”

He was recommended by a friend and so I checked the latest on his home page via my phone. His Google BlogSpot gives a convenient listing of that page not available on PC and I spotted a tantalising title and opened up The biggest breakthrough of all time.

It opens intriguingly,

Morris Cerullo says all truth is parallel.
What he means by this is what is spiritually true NOW and being revealed NOW is also working itself out in natural parallels.
Soon followed by,

THERE IS NOTHING HALF-HEARTED ABOUT ROMANS 8.   Everyone should read it regularly, for the same reason that a whole generation of us have repeatedly listened to this 1975 message by Ern Baxter.

But if the Spirit of Him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, He who raised Christ Jesus from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through His Spirit who dwells in you.

WOW only minutes before had I read that in my study bible!! 

Please note I’m not endorsing Chris’ site or its content. I can but conclude the Lord’s hand led me in this instance…

Supermoon Monday’s ‘Blood Moon’ and the ‘Age to Come’

Red Moon Chart, credit Mark Biltz

In connection with Monday morning’s lunar eclipse, or ‘blood moon’, it’s opportune to meet an unfulfilled promise relating to prophetic words and teaching heard in April. In fact, their relevance relates to an insight I’d been blessed with on ‘The Age to Come’. Also, references to the work of OT prophet Daniel resonated with a personal prophetic word. (Publicly delivered, it’s available to read here.)

Therefore, it’s appropriate to look first at scriptures relating to that implicit waiting and looking forward to fulfilment of the Lord’s promised plans – even if in the far future!  I’ve  emphasised the parts relating to visionary-auditory revelation:

On Faith – Hebrews 11

‘Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. For by it the elders obtained a good testimony. By faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that the things which are seen were not made of things which are visible…

‘By faith Abel offered to God a more excellent sacrifice than Cain, through which he obtained witness that he was righteous, God testifying of his gifts; and through it he being dead still speaks. By faith Enoch was taken away so that he did not see death, “and was not found, because God had taken him”;  for before he was taken he had this testimony, that he pleased God. [Genesis 5:21-24 ‘All the days of Enoch were 365 years. And Enoch walked with God and was not found…’]

‘But without faith it is impossible to please Him, for he who comes to God must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of those who diligently seek Him.

‘By faith Noah, being divinely warned of things not yet seen, moved with godly fear, prepared an ark for the saving of his household, by which he condemned the world and became heir of the righteousness which is according to faith.

‘By faith Abraham obeyed when he was called to go out to the place which he would receive as an inheritance. And he went out, not knowing where he was going. By faith he dwelt in the land of promise as in a foreign country, dwelling in tents with Isaac and Jacob, the heirs with him of the same promise; for he waited for the city which has foundations, whose builder and maker is God.’ (verses 11-13 omitted)

‘For those who say such things declare plainly that they seek a homeland. And truly if they had called to mind that country from which they had come out, they would have had opportunity to return.

‘But now they desire a better, that is, a heavenly country. Therefore God is not ashamed to be called their God, for He has prepared a city for them.’

[Scripture from the New King James Version; copyright 1982 by Thomas Nelson Inc. Used by permission. All rights reserved.]

The Book Beyond the Bible

At an inter-stream conference in March 2011 in Winchester, King Alfred’s capital of Saxon England, the Lord drew my attention to the unwritten book hiding behind my Bible’s back cover! That is, it comes after The Apocalypse, or Revelation, given to Jesus Christ for showing to and recording by His close disciple, the Apostle John.

As noted in Revival 1: glory stories, I sensed in worship that the Lord wants me to focus upon the eventual new earth and new heavens, especially the appearance from heaven of The New Jerusalem. That is, to not only be involved in and understand the times of His return, but also and more importantly to focus upon His ultimate aim for the Church, as in Revelation 21-22 and its implicit existence and purpose beyond the Bible’s cover!

That pre-blog email recounts subsequent encouragements for understanding that this all relates to ‘The Age to Come’.

2015 Feast of Tabernacles’ Blood Moon

Monday morning’s event was the fourth consecutive eclipse occurring on the first and last Jewish feast days on two subsequent years, as in the above chart by pastor Mark Biltz. So he described them as a ‘Blood Moon Tetrad’.

I recall his friend William Koenig referring to their discussions of 2007-8 on this, contrary to John Hagee’s false claims of later discovery; as disclosed here.  Mark’s research into NASA’s astronomical data may be read in Blood Moons: Adding Up The Evidence.

Now to expand upon what I blogged on Monday about Charlie Shamp’s position on that day’s blood moon.:

There was much new intellectual and spiritual food to digest from the Passover/Easter weekend conference reported here. I’d hoped to have shared some as the concluding part to ‘God-incidents’ validate cycles and point to the near future wherein I refer to 40 and 55 year cycles. The intention was to share something of what Charlie taught and connect it to what I was given and started noticing about 70-year cycles in connection with what he said about a specific date. (Sticking his neck out there!)

Charles_Brynn_Shamp_250px[1]How that conference started after worship is told in A vision: Sowing into the Kingdom of God. Whilst amazed at what I’d seen, I heard him refer to blood moons and correct the public misunderstanding gained from some sensationalist American journalism. As reported earlier, he believes Monday’s 4th blood moon marks the beginning of the time the Army of God will start appearing.

Charlie posits a two-year period starting on Monday 27th, in which we’re going to begin to see people who’ll be able to pray from within the Age to Come. Why two years? He explains,

“It leads to 23rd September 2017, which reveals something very special that we’re going to hear a lot about in coming days.

It’s a two-year period in which God is going to see how much He can trust you – because everybody wants to do the stuff, everyone wants to be able to work miracles – but how much can God actually trust you with that?”

To indicate what he means by this – and its spiritual importance – Charlie referred to God making Moses ‘as a god to pharaoh’ (Exodus 7).

“In other words He said to Moses; ‘I’m going to make you My mouthpiece, My oracle – that you’re not going to do anything out of line other than what I tell you’…

“So along with that revealing is a testing period…an emerging of  a generation, which I believe that God is offering to everybody, but there will be a company that actually walk into this!

“It’s a crossing over of a Melchizedek-type priesthood with its kings on the earth…”

In answering his “Why September 23rd 2017?” I’d have told of its personal significance. Instead, he answers by talking about the prophet Daniel, whom he thinks could enter the ‘heavens’ and live in the future. There, he learnt about astronomical events for the time appointed for the Messiah’s birth in Bethlehem.

Accordingly, Daniel could see that ‘star’ and bequeathed this knowledge to his school of Magi, as well as arranged in advance for them to present specific gifts to the Christ-child. That is, Daniel was living in and operating out of the Glory of God within ‘The Age to Come’!

Then, teaching from Revelation 12, Charlie considers how this scripture suggests the very same zodiacal configuration and alignment known to Daniel set for Jesus’ birth – will be once again be of astronomical significance on 23rd September 2017. (Not as a Venus-Jupiter conjunction I’d assumed; see NASA’s Sky Events 2017 calendar.)

For details of the astronomical alignment and biblical significance read a brief blog by Mark Conn published in January 2014: Revelation 12, Blood Moons and April 2014. (Note that Charlie would agree with the opening caveat re astrology. Mark makes very brief references to a possibility of the Tribulation – June 2014 saw ISIS sweep across Iraq with an extensive, barbaric persecution of Christians.)

VenusandJupiter 2015UPDATE: for details and significance of Venus-Jupiter conjunctions in 2015 see Nelson Walters’ post on Star of Bethlehem Repeats Again This Week in The Gospel in the End Times. It’s interesting that this biblically erudite blogger whose work I’ve previously drawn attention to, appreciates the importance of astronomical events.

More…

Spiral stairway to cloudsAnother of Charlie’s comments that plugged into what I’d done only recently was his saying the Jewish Temple had two spiral stairways. This reminded me of my selecting the image of a double-spiral and describing a spiral staircase to depict the corkscrew nature of Time itself in The ‘Endgame’ gets ramped up another level. That was a sensitive week or so in blogging, as explained in the subsequent part 2, to which this post acts as a successor.

On the final day of the conference Charlie spoke about the astronomical situation at the start of Islam, about which I’d been blogging – our eyeballs locked as he addressed me personally when talking about it! (How did he know? Did Holy Spirit tell him?)

Assessment

In our weighing this inspirational teaching let’s look at pertinent points of what Charlie published on New Year’s Day under Prayer Points for 2015-20. I’ve found the first part to be accurate (as underlined), as may be inferred from several of my blogs. So I have a confidence in the possible accuracy of subsequent part’s promises (as reported above):

The Seer Anointing Intensified (extract)

‘The Lord spoke to me and said that this will be a year that the seers are coming into their multi-dimensional sight. A new realm of the prophetic will be birthed this year. In January many prophetic people will enter into a season of incubation for greater manifestation. The Lord showed me that from January to September will be a time of preparation for what is going to be birthed towards the end of September after the final blood moon on the 28th of that month…This nine-month period will be a time for the conception and forming of a supernatural movement to be birthed into earth…

‘There will be a birthing of a greater glory at the end of September. A place of unusual power will begin to flow towards the end of 2015 like we have never seen before. Many will begin to taste of the age to come. There will be a prophetic people that will begin to emerge toward the end of next year that will speak a wisdom that is not of this world. They will manifest a message from an age to come. They will transcend the system of the world and operate from a higher order of the supernatural. A Daniel company is coming! This will be a company of prophets who can discern our times with pinpoint accuracy. Some will be given high places to speak into earthly governments around the world. They will have a mandate from The Lord to administer justice and solve complex situations that human intellect can not understand.’

Next > Meditative scripture leading into Neville Johnson on post-Tetrad new era.

Background reading: for an introduction to this subject read Passover and Blood-red Moons and 500th post: review and ‘blood moons’ cont’d.

A scriptural context of the 4th lunar eclipse of the ‘Blood Moon Tetrad’

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Credit Fred Espenak; click image for Mr Eclipse website

[Readers to whom this concept is new are directed to explanatory material in Passover and blood-red moons, which is continued in 500th post – itself a useful review for new subscribers.]

In the Book of Joel, chapter 2 verses 28-32, the prophet receives a word from the Lord that was famously fulfilled on and after the feast of Pentecost whereupon God’s Holy Spirit was poured out on Jesus’ first apostles and disciples:

Charlie ShampOn Good Friday last we heard a novel, positive prophetical exposition on the scriptural meaning of the blood moons. At the Passover-Easter conference referred to earlier, Charles Shamp shared his interesting insights the gist of which is as follows.:

This year’s Passover-Easter with its blood moon, he offers, was the opening up of a significant time and season that may, however, have elements that could be used as satanic strategy.

“I’m seeing all these (American) books about doom and gloom; ‘the four blood moons’… ‘the Apocalypse’…’The Antichrist’ – but you know that actually the blood moons reveal the Army of God…

“They’re not teaching that; they’re teaching that the Antichrist is coming to take over the world – but when you read the Book of Joel, the blood moon actually reveals the Army of God.

“We’re standing at a strategic time right now. Actually in September – the 27th – is going to be the fourth blood moon. No it’s not going to be the Antichrist – it’s actually going to be a revealing, of the beginning, of the Army of God.

“You know, the Bible says the heavens declare the Glory of God – not the destruction of God, not the doom and gloom of God – but the Glory!. The heavens show us His Glory. They show us signs that don’t point to death but point to life!”

That is, Charlie considers that the fourth blood-moon over this Sunday-Monday, starting the Feast of Tabernacles at sundown Sunday, is going to open up the beginning of the time of the Army of God. He believes this weekend will actually begin a two-year period where we’re going to begin to see people who are going to pray things from the Age to Come. Thus, the next two years until September 2017 are going to be very special, not judgmental and destructive.

So we shall see. We can soon check the accuracy of such thoughts on this matter…

[Continued in Supermoon Monday’s ‘Blood Moon’ and the ‘Age to Come’.]

Notes:

  1. For where and when to see total lunar eclipse go here.
  2. Check Hebraic calendar for September here.
  3. Check 2015 Astronomical calendar here.

Nuggets from ‘Days of Wonder’, Wales

Further to my recent post on the meeting in Cardiff, here’s a little more from Paul Keith Davis’ opening minutes:

PK Davis_credit z3news“I’m of the belief – and I know you are as well – that we will not accomplish our mandate without the supernatural realm. Period!

“It’s not going to happen! We have no ability…we’re not eloquent enough, not smart enough, we’re not anything enough to get the job done without a dimension of the supernatural being manifested in real and tangible ways, so that a dying world can see it – and our doing what we’re called to do

“Wouldn’t it  be wonderful to do everything we’re called to do?…”

“It’s a time of awakening, of people doing what they’re called to do…you are uniquely qualified to meet the needs of your generation. I don’t know a more needy generation. Maybe those of Genesis 6 [Days of Noah] were more needy?

“The apostle Paul talking to Timothy said, ‘you think these days are bad, what about ‘the last days’, when they’ll be lovers of self and money grabbing?’…if apostle Paul needed the supernatural to confront what he did in his day, how much more do we because he said our day will be far worse.

“So the idea that the supernatural is only for the days of the Apostles because of the difficulty of their day is un-biblical. It is an un-biblical posture and we’ve got to break it off the evangelical mind-set of the Church.”

DoW Speakers by Lindi MastersIan Clayton’s personal story is of remarkable recovery from business failure and bankruptcy. In desperation he and his wife had no choice but to turn to God and to rely upon Him as their source of provision and supply. With fears a constant barrage in his face, Ian found the only way to face and deal with them was from above with God. And the only way he could have time for that was during repetitive, routine menial tasks like mowing their large lawn with a push-mower.

On the few times I’ve heard him, Ian often refers the importance of being in “Passionate pursuit of the Person and Presence of God”, which led to profound insights about Creation, time and space and the ‘heavenlies’.

In this gathering Ian launched off with,

ian-300x268“I don’t think that we have a grid yet on the reality of what God is trying to do with us as believers!

“We don’t understand the value that our human body is to God…We have no revelation yet beyond the Cross…The Church has stopped at the Cross and we haven’t gone beyond it!

“I believe that in ‘crossing the Jordan’ is the revelation of our going beyond the Cross because Jesus didn’t actually sort of die – but He sort of did!”

Please don’t presume Ian’s introducing false doctrine akin to Islam’s denial of Jesus’ death. He goes on to talk about the physiological corrosive effect of blood in a dying body, and the possibility Jesus didn’t need it for or after His resurrection. Also, blood relates to breathing and having a voice.

In explaining this he cites disciple Thomas touching Jesus’ wounds. Unlike his brethren, Thomas hadn’t been there to see his teacher display His wounds to them.

For readers unfamiliar with Thomas, I’d explain that he was cynical about their claims. He wanted not only to see for himself that Jesus is alive but also to, “Put my finger into the print of the nails, and put my hand into His side”, thereby testing their claims (John 20:24-28).

A week layer when they were all together, Jesus materialised out of thin air behind closed doors and invited Thomas to not only ”bring the finger and perceive” the nail marks in His hands but also “thrust hands into My side”  [per Greek-interlinear] which, says Ian, means exactly that rather than simply touch.

Ian’s of the opinion that ‘into’ means the same as being ‘IN Christ’, for he says,

“Thomas put his hands INTO a new creature – not a human being – into a realm that’s to do with the issue of breathing (?) that we have no reference for because the Church has not been into the darkness yet!…I’m trying to make things simple…”

We all laugh and, indeed, Ian’s dramatic sessions are highly interactive. He often pauses with a grin and raised eyebrow to watch reactions and check we’re following him. It’s a standing joke that his theology ‘fries brains’!

“Do you realise ‘Doubting Thomas’ wasn’t doubting at all? He was the only one (of those disciples) that stepped into a revelatory realm in his time, and that others are doubting you can get into!”

[This notion may also give an insight into Mark 16:12 statement that Jesus ‘appeared in another form to two of them as they walked into the country’ (to Emmaus); also into the ‘mystery’ of believers’ bodies putting off corruption and becoming incorruptible – 1 Cor 15:50-57]

The darkness to which Ian refers isn’t demonic but ‘treasures of darkness and hidden riches of secret places wherein we can know the God of Israel ‘ (Isaiah 45:3). And that scripture was given not for an Israelite but for the Lord’s anointed gentile, Cyrus king of Persia (per 1st verse). So how much more appropriate it is for believers in Jesus Christ, who are not only His royal priesthood but who also are blessed with ‘power to become sons of God’, to be able to access that treasure. (John 1:12 KJV)

Also, this relates directly to His existence before Creation. From the outset of seeking Him, Ian wanted to know what God was like before the Beginning – “What He was like when He was, before the ‘is’ and ‘was’ became ‘was’.” (‘The Alpha and Omega’ of Rev 1:8).

Personal Note

This journey started with an unexpected hint about what may be a theme for me to note – that of ‘regeneration’. It was fascinating, therefore, how all three teachers dovetailed together and spoke into several personal points. Furthermore, the Lord began a deep stirring over His Word, which Paul Keith picked up upon during ministry time.

I was reminded of the time the Lord impressed upon me the concept of an as yet unwritten book of scripture – one beyond the Bible’s back cover and all about the new earth and new heaven or ‘Age to Come’. That is, following Revelation and after the New Jerusalem and the Marriage of the Lamb. Some confirmations were soon to follow and concluded with teaching upon the Sonship-Bridal Paradigm by Paul Keith (see Revival 1:glory stories).

So the ‘Days of Wonder’ meeting plugs into that concept, especially with Ian’s teaching on how God exists outside time in eternity as The Alpha and Omega, where the End meets the Beginning,

“We don’t understand what God is. To understand what we will become we have to go back to the beginning; we’ll end up in the beginning – we’re going back into what we were, because Hebrews think circular. God is Alpha and Omega and what started is where we will finish…”

His exposition on this and the gift of prophecy and creating our future was fascinating.

So the concept of God’s glory hidden in holy darkness is intriguing; even illuminating, in view of what I once saw long before I was born-again. Living unbeknown in the enemy’s camp, I dreamt of a huge, black thunder-cloud coming over the horizon. Much as I love  watching thunderstorms and recalled many ferocious ones in Italy and Greece, this one was menacing because it possessed a brooding intelligence. A deep fear came upon me. I didn’t know about Ezekiel’s vision, but his opening description of the cloud of God was like my dream (Ezek 1:4).

Also, a question I wanted to ask Ian about a pre-Christian experience in ‘nirvana’ and the devourer was answered by his teaching. Thus, I understand the realm of a second heaven is accessible to anyone practising occult techniques, but only those who are ‘in Christ’ are protected by His blood and may enter the third heaven, as did apostle Paul (2Cor 12:2) – and Thomas!

A couple of other things he mentioned in passing connected into things I’d sensed, and Paul Keith also spoke into thoughts I’d had on Daniel, judgement and contending. And on the final day Ian taught about ‘The Age to Come’!

My notes can but give a brief ‘taster’ of these ‘Days of Wonder’ and I’m listening again to the sessions and trying to process everything.

And I’ve yet to explain about the lion, as promised in my musings upon Fflad-y-Brenin..

The event made a mighty impact upon Paul Keith, as related in ‘Follow-on’ video-post.