‘Thin places’, a ‘quantum’ veil separating heaven and earth

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The ancient Celtic saints’ concept of sacred spots – where heaven touches earth – may have a scientific aspect as a ‘quantum’ veil says Phil Mason, author of Quantum Glory.

Our ‘current trilogy’ of another look at the meeting place of scripture and science now includes Phil’s article posted on his website on 11th September. In view of my recent reflections upon Greek meanings buried behind our English translations, I especially note his focus upon that too.

I didn’t include the post with other science-related posts at the time to avoid any possible intellectual indigestion. Even so, his seminal work had already been introduced in Does Extraterrestial Intelligence Exist? Part 1 & Part 2.

First, an intriguing definition of ‘non-locality’ (emphasis added):

‘Another of the remarkable features of the microscopic world prescribed by quantum theory is the idea of nonlocality, what Albert Einstein rather dismissively called “spooky actions at a distance” …‘Nonlocality describes the apparent ability of objects to instantaneously know about each other’s state, even when separated by large distances (potentially even billions of light years), almost as if the universe at large instantaneously arranges its particles in anticipation of future events….’ (The Physics of The Universe )

Now over to Phil Mason:


Faced with the triple realities of quantum non-locality, the existence of God and the supernatural intervention of God we can move forward to theorise the relationship between these three fundamental realities of our supernaturally crafted universe. As we explore this dimension of non-local quantum reality in greater depth I will propose that this invisible layer of quantum reality acts as some kind of interface between the presence and power of God (who exists in the spiritual realm) and the world of matter.

The non-local quantum world appears to be some kind of invisible, intermediate ‘buffer zone’ between spirit and matter. It would appear that the non-local quantum realm has been strategically crafted by God to be directly responsive to the influence and activity of the Spirit of God so that these non-local quantum realities are capable of ‘materialising’ into a localised spatial formation. Quantum realities are the building blocks of matter. This is now an established scientific fact!

I have been exploring the nature of the creation of the heavens and the earth through the lens of quantum non-locality and the wave-particle duality. But before I can get to that subject, we need to delve deeper into this phenomena of quantum non-locality. I am proposing the simple theory that this twilight zone of quantum non-locality is the interface between two worlds. This is by no means an outrageous speculation in the light of trends in the scientific community.

Even purely secular physicists such as Richard Feynman, Stephen Hawking and many others have embraced an idea called the ‘Many Worlds Interpretation’ as a way of resolving the quantum paradox. Richard Feynman said, “I think we are forced to accept the Many Worlds Interpretation if quantum mechanics is true” (ref 1). Stephen Hawking is a big fan of this interpretation. In fact, in a poll of 72 leading cosmologists and quantum theorists 58% claimed to believe in the Many Worlds Interpretation (2). That is almost 6 out of 10!

This theory was developed by an American physicist called Hugh Everett. Everett argued that there is no such thing as the wave function collapse when it is measured by an observer. Instead the act of quantum measurement causes a splitting into two parallel universes: one in which the sub-atomic particle exists as a particle and the other in which it still exists as a non-collapsed wave. This theory has given rise to the science fiction popularisation of the concept ‘parallel universes.’ Scientists who have embraced the Many Worlds Interpretation have sought to explain the phenomena of the double-slit experiment as evidence that we live in a ‘Multiverse’ rather than a universe.

The Multiverse is a hypothetical set of possible universes that exist alongside one another in different dimensions, of which our physical universe is but one of a series of parallel worlds. I am not an advocate of the Many Worlds Interpretation because I believe in just two worlds: the world of spirit and the world of matter. But I wanted to make the point that the idea of parallel universes or merely the idea of another universe alongside our own is not an idea that is on the fringe of contemporary scientific thought. Many well-known scientists who have become popular authors subscribe to this view and actively promote it as a solution to the quantum paradox.

Jesus said, “My Kingdom is not of this world!” (3) The writer to the Hebrews indicates that Christ is the one through whom God “made the worlds” (4). Note that the term ‘worlds’ is plural not singular. We see this same term in a later chapter of Hebrews, “By faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that the things which are seen were not made of things which are visible” (5).

There are two worlds revealed in the Bible. Jesus frequently talked about this world and the world above. He said to those who opposed Him, “You are from beneath; I am from above. You are of this world; I am not of this world” (6). On another occasion He said, “I came forth from the Father and have come into the world. Again, I leave the world and go to the Father” (7). Clearly, Jesus revealed that there are two worlds. There is this material world and there is another world that is above and beyond this physical universe because it exists in another spiritual dimension.


These two worlds are separated by a gossamer thin veil. They are continuously intersecting yet they are two entirely separate worlds. One is the world constituted by matter and the other is constituted by spirit. When Jesus walked upon the earth he displayed the supernatural powers of the world above which He identified as ‘heaven.’ Even when He was upon the earth He was still living in this other dimension called heaven. He said, “No one has ascended to heaven but He who came down from heaven, that is, the Son of Man who is in heaven” (8). The ‘Heavenly Man,’ Jesus Christ, displayed heaven on earth and revealed the kingdom of heaven everywhere He walked on earth. The gospels continually reveal His world breaking into our world.

The Bible talks about a ‘veil’ that separates heaven and earth. The book of Hebrews talks about entering “the Presence behind the veil” (9). Matthew, Mark and Luke all record that at the exact moment that Jesus died on the cross the veil in the temple was torn from top to bottom, prophetically symbolising that through the atonement of Christ the way had been made for humanity to pass “through the veil” (10) into this supernatural world called heaven. Elsewhere in the New Testament we encounter another interesting concept that appears to communicate a similar idea to the veil. Paul talked about a ‘mirror’ or a ‘looking glass.’ He said, “For now we see through a glass darkly, but then face to face” (11).

Paul picked up this idea again in his second Epistle to the Corinthians where he deliberately dove-tailed the twin concepts of the ‘looking-glass’ and the ‘veil.’ He taught that whenever someone turns to Christ the veil is taken away (12). He then proceeded to teach that those who have turned to Christ are now able to peer through the looking glass into heaven in order to behold the glory of God. “But we all, with unveiled face, beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are being transformed into the same image from glory to glory, just as by the Spirit of the Lord” (13). The obvious suggestion is that God is on the other side of the veil. He is on the other side of the looking-glass, peering into this world. We are in this material world but through Christ we can now peer through the looking-glass into heaven.

Next Invisible Jigsaw Pieces: ‘Thin Places’, Open Heavens, New Season in Wales


  1.  Feynman is quoted in Frank J. Tipler: ‘The Physics of Christianity.’ p.6
  2.  http://www.hedweb.com/manworld.htm#believes
  3.  John 18:36
  4.  Hebrews 1:2
  5.  Hebrews 11:3
  6.  John 8:23
  7.  John 16:28
  8.  John 3:13
  9.  Hebrews 6:19
  10.  Hebrews 10:20
  11. 1 Corinthians 13:12
  12. 2 Corinthians 3:16


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