My thanks to Michael Marcel for publishing this prophetic word on UK Awakening. Michael writes that he was with Cindy Jacobs as she went to our four nations and the message was similar in each country. (He hasn’t posted one for Northern Ireland because her whole message was the word.) His transcript in its entirety is below, which I’ve edited purely for ease of distinguishing between Cindy’s words and what she brings from the Lord. To read it as delivered in its full flow, click here:
WALES
The Lord would say, “I am coming to Wales, but not as I have done in times past, but I am coming in a greater measure, for I never do anything lesser than what I did before”.
The Lord says, “I have seen you and I have heard your cries”, and God says, “You look at your city as apathetic, but I say the fields are white with harvest”.
The Lord says, “I am the great I Am that raised up the Whitfields and the Wesleys and Evan Roberts”, and the Lord says, “I am going to do it again, I am going to bring my power, I am going to display my Glory in a measure that you cannot imagine, greater than what you even think”.
And the Lord would say, “Why shouldn’t I use you? I want to use the Caleb generation, I want to use the Joshua generation. In this move of God I am going to marry the generations, I am going to bring them up together, I am going to use red, yellow, brown, black and white, I am going to use the young women and the young men and I am coming says God.
“You will see signs in the heavens and signs in the earth. I am going to begin to shake”, says the Lord, “and when you see the shaking come you will know that the visitation is not far behind the shaking. I am coming to shake everything that can be shaken says the Lord. I am coming to shake the heavens; I am coming to shake the earth. You will see signs on the cliffs, on the cliffs of the North Sea, you will see signs… in the heavens, even the newspapers will say ’Is this the end time, is this apocalyptic?’
And God says, “I know how to bring the fear of the Lord into our people. I am coming”, says the Lord, “I am coming to Wales, I am going to move upon the schools. Look to the schools and the land”, says the Lord, “For I am going to visit the little children, there is a great children’s revival coming. I am going to breathe upon the little children, I am going to breathe upon the six-year olds, and the seven-year olds and the eight-year olds, I am going to come and visit them”, says the Lord.
“Look at the ten through twelve-year olds, I am going to come upon them”, says God. And the Lord says, “I am going to come upon the old, even you will see upon the elderly, the seniors, very old people I am going to make them rejoice in me”, for God says, “I will not forgive one generation in this move that ? (questions? RB) I have come.”
SCOTLAND
Coming down out of the clouds, when the cloud level broke and I felt a burst of Glory coming out of the ground – first time in 35 years.
The Lord says, “I am releasing a wave of Glory out of Scotland that will affect many nations says the Lord. For this is going to be transformation that affects all of Europe and the nations of the earth”.
God says, “I am going to make you a transformed nation and the Lord says that there is a great battle over the destiny of Scotland, but what the enemy means for evil, I will turn for good. I am going to turn some things around on a level you would not imagine”.
The Lord says, “As this nation stands in prayer in the measure they stood to vote, I am going to turn it around”, says the Lord.
The Lord says, “I am coming with a move of my Spirit says God, I am going to release an anointing of evangelism, there is going to be an anointing, not only of evangelism”, but I see God is getting ready to send to the nations of the earth and the Lord says, “It is harvest time in this nation”.
The Lord says,”Many have prayed for revivals, many have said, God will you do it again, but I am saying to you I am going to do greater than what you can imagine and what you can dream, for there is a Jesus People movement coming. I am coming with a wave that is going to hit the secondary schools, it is going to hit the primary schools, it is going to be a school anointing, and it is not going to be just a few”, the Lord says, “There are going to be child evangelists, and they are going to raise up as my burning ones and they are going to have the message of God and a message of conviction upon their lips says the Lord”. God says, “Even now there are little ones who are six and eight and ten and I am giving them dreams and they are seeing angels and they are having visitations from the Lord”, but God says, “I am going to use them to begin to share in their schools, and if they try to shut them up, they will shout all the more and they will not be silent”, says the Lord.
ENGLAND
For The Lord says, “There is a new sound arising out of England unlike any that has been released before. I am calling my people to once again fill the streets with singing and dance upon injustice.
“For the streets of London are filled with protestors and the enemy is stirring up a spirit of Anarchy that will attempt to inflame radicals of all types, but I say that it is time for the Lion of Judah to roar upon this land.
“Wake up and call unto me!” says The Lord! “Awaken in me with the voice of song and dance for I inhabit the praises of my people. It is time for the church to once again go to the streets and worship. You will take back the streets of the cities through demonstrating your love for Me and I will be stirred up as a Mighty Man of War and fight on your behalf.
“Let My Name be praised from shop to shop and school to school! Ring the bells and cause the church to wake up.
“If you will rejoice, I will release the former and latter rains upon the nation and there will be another Great Awakening that will spill out across the world. For I desire to fill this nation and the UK and the region with My Glory”, says The Lord.
The Lord said to me today,
“Psalm 133, United Kingdom, red, yellow, brown, black and white, dancing upon injustice, releasing the Glory of God to the streets.
God has brought the Nigerians and the people from West Indies, …some people say the complexion of the nation has changed”, but the Lord says, “I have caused it to be the colour I have always wanted it to be in my people coming together as one, for love has no colour says the Lord”.
The Lord says, ”Do not fear that you will lose who you are, for I am going to loose the Spirit of Evangelism, I am going to begin to move upon those, and I am going to win them to me, I am going to woo them, those who you have most feared I am bringing for the greatest harvest this nation has ever seen.
“A sound is going to be released that is going to be greater than anything that has ever come out of this nation before. God says, I am going to raise it up, I am going to raise up a new generation with a new sound that is going to pierce the heavens and release this anointing to her destiny” says the Lord.
Thank you Lord for this timely prophetic vision. It’s similar to a startling open vision right in front of me just over 10 years ago (as told in Comments upon the collapse of Society).
I saw a vision 11/19/2014 as I was driving. In the vision I saw people that looked like they were being tossed about as one would be were they in the ocean except they were bit in the ocean, they were on dry land. In the vision they were even having a hard time time keeping their balance. There was a shaking going on, a violent shaking. There seemed to be no ceasing of the shaking. In the same vision I saw other people who were standing on round rocks slightly elevated above the ground. They were not shaking as the others around them, they were at peace. The people who were being shaken saw that those standing on the rocks were not being shaken and tried reaching out to them so that they too would have secure footing as well. There’s no doubt in my mind that the Rock…
Political pundits over the ‘pond’ earned their pay on Tuesday and yesterday! (Potus = President Of The United States)
President Obama’s party – the Democrats – were trounced in mid-term elections by the Republicans (aka GOP, ‘Grand Old Party’). The GOP decisively won majority of seats to seize the Senate and gain full control of both chambers of Congress. CNN reports this empowers the GOP to pin down President Barack Obama during his last two years in office.
However, such swings with a low turn-out of voters aren’t unusual for mid-terms, as had happened for Republican GW Bush’s second term. It makes for a ‘lame-duck’ leader, but I leave it for my American readers to debate over whether that’s new for Obama.
Now I won’t pretend to know anything about USA’s governance, but want to point out later a coincidence of Biblical relevance. (Anyone like me needing to learn more will find this BBC briefing, or a fuller Wikipedia article, are helpful – as well as fictional The West Wing TV series!)
According to The Telegraph’s Washington reporter Raf Sanchez,
“Voters vented their frustration with Mr Obama’s six years in office on his Democrat political allies, giving the Republicans a majority in the Senate for the first time since 2006…In a particular snub to the President, voters in his home state of Illinois cast out their Democrat governor and replaced him with a Republican, despite Mr Obama campaigning on his behalf…
“Although Democrats had been braced for a bad night, the results were even worse than many had feared. The President’s party lost key races in North Carolina, Colorado and Iowa – all states that first propelled Mr Obama to the White House in 2008…”
Students of prophecy are only too aware of the significance of Jerusalem and its pivotal importance in international affairs and events, as in my recent post on William Koenig’s alert, Nations set on collision course with God.
William and John McTernan have followed developments since the mid-1990’s and 1986 respectively. In 1996, William published his work as Koenigs’ International News (now at Watch.org) and in 2001 he became an accredited White House correspondent. With John that year, he co-authored Israel: The Blessing or the Curse. They’ve written other works and their monitoring and correlating of events related to the US governments’ policies toward Israel and its biblical land have empirically tagged causative actions against Israel directly to consequential effects upon America. There’s so many instances I suspect they’d make a scientifically proven case!
Yesterday, John blogged the following observations with links to sources,
“Obama was humiliated as he was totally rejected by the American people at the very time of the statements about Jerusalem before the Supreme Court!” (…New political dynamic)
“The American people repudiate Obama at the very time he is attacking Jerusalem!” (…Smackdown to stop Obama)
“…This is the most outrageous article that I ever read about a US president dealing with Israel. I was shocked, and it takes a real lot to shock me!
“God used this Supreme Court case to expose what is in the heart of this man for all to see…”
Adam’s account of both sides of the argument is well written and even-handed. It makes fascinating reading. John quotes Adam’s opening remarks,
“Lawyers for the Obama administration compared Israel’s control of Jerusalem to Russian claims over the Ukrainian territory of Crimea during oral arguments this week before the Supreme Court in a case concerning the rights of U.S. citizens to list Jerusalem as part of Israel on their passports. U.S. Solicitor General Donald Verrilli, who is rumored to be in the running to replace outgoing Attorney General Eric Holder, drew the comparison on Monday while he attempted to convince the Supreme Court that Jerusalem is not officially part of Israel.”
This historic case demonstrates the quandary produced by political ineptness and lack of Godly direction upon a nation.
Parents of a child born in Jerusalem wish to have the birthplace officially stated on the US passport as being in “Israel”. This has been denied because the administration’s policy is to disregard the city as a part of Israel.
Consequently, the appointed Supreme Justice seemed to argue several times it would be a “lie” for the US government to acknowledge on a passport that Jerusalem is in Israel. That is, the executive branch does not believe it to be true as a matter of policy. Therefore, the parents are asking the government to lie. [SEE PS comment below]
What is amusingly fatuous are contentions about POTUS’ foreign policy, viz:
“Obama administration lawyers argue that the case infringes on the president’s executive right to conduct foreign policy. By acknowledging Jerusalem as Israeli territory, the White House would lose its credibility in the peace process, as well as its jurisdiction to manage foreign affairs, the government maintains…”.
To the claim that adding ‘Israel’ to the passport isn’t official recognition and thus doesn’t breach policy announcement, the administration, “countered that such a declaration would harm President Obama’s “credibility” in global affairs. Foreign governments, foreign peoples will not be able to have complete confidence that the position that the president announces on behalf of the United States is, in fact, the position of the United States,”.
Credibility? LOL…Derisory!
Is the Solicitor General and legal team living in cloud-cuckoo land?
POTUS’ popularity has not only plummeted at home but he’s also lost any credibility he had, not only in the supposed ‘peace process’ but also in global affairs! (My blog done in August about attempts to bring a peace deal for the Gaza war was only one of many commentaries on this issue from more expert observers over recent years: eg. see the ‘Sultan Knish’ on Why Obama hates Netanyahu.)
This leader’s defiance of the Lord’s heart toward Jerusalem and intentions thereto have led to his humiliation – he’s only to look to himself!
Do not be deceived, God is not mocked; for whatever a man sows, that he will also reap. For he who sows to his flesh will of the flesh reap corruption, but he who sows to the Spirit will of the Spirit reap everlasting life. (Galatians 6:7-8 NKJV courtesy BibleGateway.com)
PostScript (10.11.14):
Dr Mike Evans writes as follows upon reading the Supreme Court transcript of Justice Sotomayor’s words:
“They’re asking the government to lie,” Sotomayor said. “How could you tell me it’s not a lie?” Sotomayor asked Alyza Lewin, the lawyer representing the Zivotofsky family. “You, the United States, are being asked to put on the passport that you believe the place of birth of this individual is Israel, and the government—and the executive has said, no, we don’t think it was Israel, we think it was Jerusalem.” (emphasis added)
You will never see a better example of the folly of men contrasted with the wisdom of God!!
A perspicacious viewpoint on the coming harvest and the radical transformation, even a sifting, necessary for churches to prepare for what’s coming (RB).:
If you have been reading this Word For The Week for long, you have likely noticed my style is to develop a theme, and then from time to time go back to review it before going on. I may say things a little differently, but it is purposeful repetition. Repetition is required for retention, and the more something is repeated, the more it will be retained. What we do not retain we have little possibility of actually doing, and it is by doing that we bear fruit. Our goal is not just to know the will of God, but to do His will.
In the unfolding of the last-day purposes of God, we are in a lull between two great waves of the harvest. The first wave began in the late 1980s and continued for almost two decades. More people came to Christ during that time than in the history of the church up until that time. It was estimated that around the world about 375,000 people per day came to the Lord. In this present lull, this number is down to around a little over 200,000 coming to Him per day. Even in this quiet pause between the waves of harvest, Christianity is the fastest growing religion in the world. Even so, the greatest harvest of all is yet to come.
The last wave of ingathering was the greatest the world had ever seen, but what is coming will greatly eclipse it. The Great Commission will be fulfilled. The preaching of the gospel of the kingdom will be accomplished all over the earth. The bride of Christ will make herself ready and become the pure, spotless, and beautiful queen she is called to be. The messengers of God will walk in unprecedented power and authority because of how they will abide in the Lord.
I was shown that what is coming will be like a tsunami. I was told that, like a tsunami, the waters of Christianity will begin to recede before this great wave strikes. It will seem like, for a time, Christianity is in retreat all over the world just before the greatest move of God the earth has ever had sweeps the earth. If you think Christianity is receding now, it is not time to chase what is receding, but it is time to get to the high ground!
The high ground is being seated with Jesus on His throne in the heavenly places. Like all truth, this cannot merely be a doctrine, but literal. We must abide in the Lord in all that we do, all of the time. The foundation of this is experienced and entered into in local church life as it is called to be.
A key word here is “as it is called to be.” A great transformation is coming to the church, but it will only include about 10% of those that are now Christians. It is not that the other 90% will be lost, but they will have to start over again on a right foundation, or join those who have been built on a right foundation. Many Christians will likewise have their lives turned upside down, when as much as 90% of the things they now give themselves to will be removed. This is so they can fulfill their purpose in the last great move of God before He returns.
I was shown all of this in a two and a half day open vision in 1987. Most of what I was shown in that vision has already come to pass, and the rest is unfolding now. We can make this transition much easier by giving ourselves to what is eternal and not being so consumed by the things that are temporary. We were bought with a price. We are not our own. We are His, and we are on this earth for His purposes. We must find that purpose and focus our lives on accomplishing it.
The “key to the kingdom,” or the truth that opens the door to the kingdom for us so that we can live and abide in it, is the exhortation to “seek first the kingdom.” The Lord promised that if we would seek His kingdom first, He would take care of everything else for us. This is the ultimate call at this time—to put the interests of the kingdom above any other interest we have.
Another admonition from Dr Clifford Hill for Christians to weigh, consider and pray.
It is noteworthy that Wendy Alec’s A Vision for Great Britain refers to the Lord saying, “I am raising up…a mighty army of My people who will gird themselves up for battle”.:
National Crisis
The Prime Minister recalled Parliament to deal with a national crisis as the Islamic State advances towards Baghdad, beheading and slaughtering innocent civilians who do not accept their version of Islam. But is bombing the right answer to these fanatics?
We are already a nation under judgement since the passing of the ‘Same-Sex Marriage Bill’ last year in a pathetic attempt to redefine marriage which is part of God’s act of creation. You cannot tamper with God’s laws without bringing judgement upon the nation.
God may be using these Islamists as the “Rod of his Anger” to bring judgement on our godless society. It is this possibility that greatly disturbs me and causes me to cry out to the Lord for help and guidance. God has sent many warning signs which have all been ignored by both church and state.
Warnings
For more than a year now I have been hearing warnings of severe judgement. We got
very close to the total breakup of the United Kingdom through the Scottish Referendum
where a ‘Yes’ vote would have resulted in the crumbling of the social foundations of the
nation.
God responded to the vast amount of prayer from faithful believers calling for mercy in the midst of judgement. But instead of coming before God with prayers of thanksgiving our political leaders recalled Parliament and simply engaged in human arguments of how to face the enemy which may bring violence to our shores and destabilise the whole of the Middle East and lead to a Third World War which would bring untold disaster to the whole world. They do not understand the spiritual nature of the war we are facing. Why did none of them – not even the Archbishop of Canterbury – call for prayer?
Blind Leaders
Are all of our national leaders in both church and state so utterly blind that they cannot see that we are on the very brink of disaster? The Chancellor of the Exchequer has warned that the economy of the nation is still increasing the national debt every day that takes us closer to bankruptcy. The day of reckoning will surely come – he knows that! And so do most of our politicians! But they dare not say so! They go on with measures simply designed to postpone the day of reckoning which will surely come unless there is a total change of policy. So what should we do?
The answer is “Repent and believe!”, which is the message that both John the Baptist and Jesus took to Israel. The leaders of Israel did not heed the message and disaster followed. his is what will happen to Britain if we do not heed the call to repentance for the mess we have made in the nation by flouting the word of God!
When the Babylonian army was attacking Jerusalem God spoke to the Prophet Jeremiah, “This is what the Lord Almighty, the God of Israel, says: I am about to fulfil my words against this city through disaster, not prosperity” (Jeremiah 39.16). God is saying a similar word to Britain today. Like the King of Babylon we have also been “weighed in the balance and found wanting” (Daniel 5.27). The only thing that can save this nation today is to turn to the Lord in repentance and call upon him for help
Silent Church
Why do we not hear the word of the Lord from the church in this time of national crisis?
Our church leaders are like those in Isaiah’s day who were blind to the things that were
happening around them and they were said to be like “mute dogs who could not bark!”
(Isaiah 56.10). So they were unable to give warning of danger.
That is the pathetic state to which the church in Britain has fallen. They are still saying “Peace, Peace” when God is saying “There is no peace!” The enemy is at the door! Mobilise the believers to intercede for the nation!
The Last Call!
Judgement day for Britain is close. But there is still time to cry out to God for mercy and
warn all those who still call themselves Christians, however nominal, to turn to the Lord
in prayer on behalf of the nation.
The word of the Lord to Jeremiah applies to our nation today, “This is what the Lord says: look! I am preparing a disaster for you and devising a plan against you. So turn from your evil ways, each one of you, and reform your ways and your actions” (Jeremiah 18.11). This may be the last call.
Dr Clifford Hill,
Issachar Comments Papers – expounding biblical concepts on the world scene today. October 2014 Issachar Ministries
It would be well to consider an aspect of the words received by Oladapo Ogungbade, as in part 2, before proceeding to read the other communication I received that day. Also, we may come to appreciate any relevance of something seen at the weekend.:
Komatsu; credit Scott Lee, USA
At last Saturday’s mentoring day with Christian International Europe (CIE), Dr Sharon Stone mentioned that Chuck Pierce and Mike Bickle were also meeting in England. She referred to the ‘spiritual synergy’ of these meetings and immediately I was struck by an open vision right in front of me in the assembly hall of Windsor Boys’ School.
‘Hovering’ in front of me and ‘through’ the seats, my eyes about level with the top of its track and towards the rear, was a dark blue version of the massive dozer shown above. But this one was much bigger! Its height, width and length were over 3/4 those of the hall and its very tall blade-end stood towards the stage where the team was praying.
Within minutes I heard it start up with a deep-throated roar and I could imagine smoke bursting out of its vertical exhaust, like those huge American trucks. (NB: the difference between voluntary mental imagination and involuntary visual/auditory impressions.)
This may signify that, in response to the meetings and prophetic words, declarations and intercessions aligned with His will, the Lord’s host will bulldoze through all demonic opposition. Also, It could mean they’re getting ready to clear away rubble after He has shaken and demolished ungodly human institutions and activities.
Part 2
In the last post I said its warning of a ‘coming disaster…attack’ upon the UK may have a connection with what Dr Stone gave in 2013 about our “having won a battle we didn’t continue on to win the war”, as well as with what Chuck Pierce saw for 2015 (here and here respectively).
Also, in checking through 2005 links and replacing broken ones with copy documents I’ve revisited Chuck’s call for 40 days prayer that finished the day before the terrorist attacks on London Transport, and associated reports from Watchman Network. It’s this battle to which Sharon referred, and doubtless more lives may have been lost but for the intercession.
In view of the present military offensive against ISIS in which we and other nations are now engaged, then the word received by Oladapo may possibly refer to any proposed retaliation on our territory. Therefore, it is to be taken as a serious warning.
On the other hand, it may also warn of disaster coming as a result of political and/or legalistic actions within the UK. Also, as it was received earlier this year, it may well refer to the referendum on Scottish independence and leaving the UK.
Here’s my notes from last November with Sharon Stone’s remarks. Remember, her approach to prophecy is to seek Kingdom solutions:
‘…Christian leaders worldwide are well aware of the increasingly aggressive advance of secular humanism and its antichrist spirit. Many consider it worse than the Islamist aims of establishing a global caliphate.
‘Sharon stresses, however, that whoever those involved in the conflict may be, “We love all people. We’re talking about the spirit and the agenda” (ie. entirely different things). “You’re mature enough for me not to have to teach upon that…it’s a spirit that has an agendaagainst God’s agenda! Just because issues are politically incorrect to deal with…it wouldn’t be wise for us to let it simply pass by.
“Now God says the battles are going to be in Great Britain. Let me tell you why I believe its going to be here: where there are great battles there are great victories!
“So God’s not saying, I’m choosing you as a place of war, I’m choosing you as a place of conflict, because I don’t like you…No, the Lord says,
“I’m choosing you as a place for victory, so that the victory won here has an ability to be a victory that affects other nations!”
“Do you hear this? Not just for England, or for Great Britain. So what God is doing is He’s setting up His own agenda that we might have a victory here that releases us to deliver other nations, and puts us back into a functioning position of where our true identity is.
“And we’re not talking about something that takes 10 years to come to pass any more (as with other things) but we’re talking about the next two and a half to three years! Those who have ears let them hear!”
Encouraging words, are they not? Especially if the vision of the huge bulldozer is also taken into account. And another lady who strongly moves in the prophetic brought most encouraging words from the Lord back in July 2005, right after that terrorist outrage. It is those which arrived on the same day as Oladapo’s call to pray for the UK’s future we will look at next >> (or a 4th part).
Further to the NO result of the Scottish referendum on independence, Alex Salmond has stated that he will step down as First Minister as well as resign as leader of the Scottish Nationalist Party. (Sources: BBC News video and The Telegraph report.)
That he’s chosen not to continue in office to implement political changes Whitehall has promised to the half of Scotland wanting independence is most intriguing, especially in the light of his long-held antagonism toward Israel and any possible Islamist leanings (blog refers). One would reasonably believe he hasn’t been blessed but cursed, in line with the Almighty’s promise to Abram!
Prophesying into Time was a topic I started blogging about in the first weeks of the New Year. Now I can cover it again, not in analysis but in what’s being revealed about the Lord’s imminent action plans.
The last mention of timing, albeit very brief, was in Paul Keith Davis’ opening remarks at last month’s gathering in Cardiff (as here). In passing, he referred to getting “things and structures such as apostolic hubs and communities in place” between the Days of Atonement 2014 and 2015. That was all, nothing more, nothing less, as it was followed by other matters.
Whilst Paul Keith was in Wales, Australian prophetic seer Neville Johnson was in Lancaster, California. (His website is at The Academy of Light.)
Neville had spoken 18 hours earlier, in a conference’s first session, in detail about prophetic words on what’s in, or scheduled for, the same time frame that Paul Keith had mentioned, ie. after this October’s Day of Atonement.
Upon our return from Wales, our pastor produced notes for our group’s consideration of what Neville had delivered. We all recognised it’s of the Lord and its great import. For example, in view of her wish to change how we ‘do church’, we’d already discussed how to start the Lord’s first point.
Therefore, I’m including a video of the session and his notes of what the Lord gave him for your careful consideration and edification. The notes have been slightly modified for ease of reading and, additional to Neville’s use of upper case, I’ve emboldened points that spoke to me and trust this won’t detract from your study. It’s better, however, to first take time to watch and weigh:
Neville opens by referring to the importance of setting our hearts on things above and the change he senses in the conference atmosphere since last year. Upon standing outside the airport after landing, he’d sensed a gusty ‘whoosh’ go by him and asked himself,
“What’s going on in this nation? Everything is stood up in the spirit realm; both good and bad!
“You know, there’s something going down and we really need to be aware of it because the times and the seasons are very, very important.”
He continues as in the following notes published with the YouTube video:
“We have come to a critical time in our relationship and walk with the Lord. This nation (USA) has come to a critical time in the purposes of God. It’s not ‘business as usual’ – we’ve come to a critical time!
“This year I’ve had more encounters with the Lord than any other year in my life – things have become critical. It is the season of change.
“Hebrews 4 – God limited a certain day – Today if you hear my voice, harden not your heart. He limited a day – a timing factor is involved.
“The time now is limited for an adequate response before all hell breaks loose over this nation; also heaven will come, but the time is limited. When Israel came to Kadesh Barnea and spies went into the land, ten of them came back with the wrong message. There are a lot of wrong messages out there. And they died because of it. God limited the time and said, “No more!”.
“Today, if you hear His voice”…we are on the brink of something great and something terrible.
“Time is running out for us and we have to be prepared for what is coming, particularly this nation (USA), but there are ramifications for other nations around the world as well. We are on the brink of something great.
“A number of things the Lord has given me:
THE LORD HAS LAID A CORNERSTONE FOR A NEW KIND OF CHURCH. It is time for the Philadelphian church to come into manifestation in the earth and fruition in the earth. (The Faithful Church Rev 3:7-13)
YEARS OF PROMISES THAT HAVE NEVER BEEN FULFILLED IN YOUR LIFE ARE INTERSECTING NOW. It is time to take hold of them and bring them into fruition.
THE ISSUE OF SOWING AND REAPING IS BECOMING CRITICAL. Everything is speeding up. The process of sowing and reaping is being shortened over recent times; scary because we don’t always sow the right things, and it is coming back quicker.
WE NEED TO BUILD A KINGDOM (NOT CHURCH) CULTURE. We are heading into the goodness and the severity of the Lord. This year they will begin.
WE MUST MOVE FROM PRAYING FROM THE OUTER COURT IN OUR PRAYERS (“ME, ME, ME”) – WE HAVE TO PRAY AT ANOTHER LEVEL.
INTERCESSION MUST BE TARGETTED – prophets must speak into the target, and intercession must bring forth the purposes of God.
WHAT IS HAPPENING IN ISRAEL AND THE MIDDLE EAST? Israel is setting itself up for a major war – the big one. There will be some skirmishes on the way, but the big one is coming, and the ramifications on the church are enormous.
THE LORD WILL RELEASE THE GIFT OF FAITH IN THIS SEASON. This gift will release the most incredible miracles that we have hardly dreamt of. There is not much spoken of about this gift.
WE MUST SYNC WITH WHAT IS GOD IS DOING.
Yom Kippur: Day of Atonement 2014 is a Cut-Off Point
[Yom Kippur 2014 is from sunset 3rd October to sunset 4th October – read about Its Christian perspective.]
“From the time of the last blood moon to the Day of Atonement is coming – it is a cut off point, something ends. Something is coming. Yom Kippur this coming year – the curtain is drawn on many things. There is no more time. God has delayed out of His kindness some things.
“He is visiting heads of state all over the world and giving them time. God took me to Europe to speak to a queen in her bedroom. God told me to give her a specific word of what she must do and what she mustn’t do…people high up in the financial realm, giving them time to repent, many of them.
“Something is happening God is visiting people right now because time is running out and they have to make decisions. Because the world is going to change next year. Once we pass Yom Kippur things will escalate and change. It will be a different world. Stuff will be released, good and bad.
“There is a definite cut-off point that is going to happen. A lot of things have been held up because God in His mercy has waited and waited and waited (like before the flood came – Methuselah had to die first. So Methuselah became the oldest man ever on this planet because God kept extending His grace and mercy); and God has given us more time and more time. But he spoke to me,
“Neville, it is over. There is no more extension of time!”
“He is visiting people the world over, in the financial sector especially. Most of them will not repent, but He is giving them opportunity. Things are going to get really, really difficult.”
The rest of Neville’s teaching is most instructive, especially about how cultivating the Kingdom’s culture will help us during the coming dangers. He explains the powerful effect of the imagination and how its unsanctified use allows evil that he’s ‘seen’ going on behind the scenes to manipulate it, eg. violent video games. He also covers time travel…!
So, be mightily blessed as you watch and read subsequent connected visions here.
(Readers unfamiliar with Christian prophecy will find this Introduction useful.)
See Fulfilled prophecies: 4 on how this message applies to November 2015 attacks in Paris, France.
Personal Note:
Last weekend I was amazed to receive a personal word at the end of a guest teacher’s message at Dr Stone’s mentoring day. It was, as with Joshua and Caleb, a 40 years-old promise will come to fruition. Also, I’d forgotten – Neville’s remarks on the Israelite spies who returned with a wrong message, except Joshua and Caleb – and point #2 above!
In his News for September Rev Dr Clifford Hill issues a deeply felt warning about today’s voting in Scotland.
It has been circulating privately for intercession but may also be read on Issachar Ministries website. It just so happens that its opening, prime scripture also featured in what we heard this morning in a video on effective prayer from Anne Graham Lotz in Jerusalem. In view of this, I’m posting Dr Hill’s call for your prayerful consideration:
JUDGEMENT DAY FOR BRITAIN – A Call to Prayer
A spirit of deception is sweeping across Scotland that threatens to bring disaster, not only upon the people of Scotland, but upon the whole United Kingdom.
The first phone call Monica and I received on returning home from a three-day prayer retreat last week was from one of our Prayer Partners up in the Highlands of Scotland who said she has been repeatedly receiving a word from the Lord both in sleep and when she is awake – the word is the writing on the wall seen by Belshazzar –
“MENE, MENE, TEKEL, UPARSIN” – “Your days are numbered; you have been weighed on the scales and found wanting; your kingdom is divided and given to the Medes and Persians” (Daniel 5:25-26).
This tied in completely with the words of warning I had been given from Ezekiel 33 that if the watchman sees the sword coming and does not blow the trumpet to warn the people he will be held accountable.
This is the word of the Lord to the people of Britain today,
“As surely as I live, declares the Sovereign Lord, I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that they turn from their ways and live. Turn! Turn from your evil ways!” (Ezekiel 33.11).
God has been warning our nation for 40 years that he would shake all nations and that Britain was facing disaster unless there was repentance and turning. He has sent many signs and prophetic words which have been ignored.
In 1980 I published a book, Towards the Dawn, saying that all the pillars of society in Britain would crumble unless there was repentance and turning. Today, we are on the brink of catastrophe: the pillars of society are crumbling – the family, the economy, the church – all are being shaken as corruption and abuse are exposed; the bankers, the politicians, the police, the social services, the journalists, and the celebrities.
Now the nation is on the edge of disaster – if Scotland votes “Yes” on 18 September the people of Scotland will pull down the whole house around them. They have got good cause for wanting to be free from rule by Westminster but if they vote for independence all the main institutions of society will collapse. In the lifetime of many still living, Great Britain has lost her Empire, the Commonwealth is crumbling and now the very existence of the United Kingdom is threatened.
In 1911 the Mother Barbara Prophecy foretold the great shaking of the nations that is now taking place. “Not one country will be without trial but do not be frightened of anything you will hear. An evil will shortly take Russia and wherever this evil comes, rivers of blood will flow… In the last days Germany will be divided in two. France will just be nothing. Italy will be judged by natural disasters. Britain will lose her Empire and all her colonies and will come to almost total ruin, but will be saved by praying women. America will feed the world but will finally collapse….” (more information here).
Last year Britain crossed a red line in passing a law to re-define marriage which is part of God’s creation and judgement became inevitable. But amazingly God still loves this nation! He is promising that if the faithful remnant will intercede before him now, total disaster can still be averted. The Lord is calling his watchmen to blow the trumpet and intercede on behalf of the nation. The time is short to mobilise the prayers of the faithful, but it can be done. Pray now most urgently that the United Kingdom does not collapse with all the ensuing chaos which will follow.
Rev Dr Clifford Hill
[Author of over 30 wide-ranging books, journals, studies and audio resources, including some written jointly with his wife, Rev Dr Clifford Hill MA BD PhD is a sociologist and theologian. His pastoral ministry has been in inner-city areas of London, a long ministry in the East End, Senior Lectureship in Sociology of Religion in London University as well as founding one of the largest urban mission organisations in Britain, and Prophetic Word Ministries. This had an extensive international ministry from 1982 to 2005 with its flagship magazine Prophecy Today.]
Do you know how the Holy Spirit works and unexpectedly touches people in different ways? It shows He’s very personal. And, depending upon individual sensitivity, some even get ‘blasted’! For example, take last night shortly before 7pm.:
A pastor teaching on Ezekiel chapters 38 and 39 speaks his mind – but my wife winces as she gets ‘electrified’ by an invisible bolt from 4,400 miles away!
We were sitting in our lounge watching the morning service live from Mobile, Alabama. Drawing towards a close in quoting prophet Ezekiel’s book, John Kilpatrick expresses a personal opinion, but the effect of what is said demonstrates that it’s uttered under an unction of the Holy Spirit. John says,
“I want to say to America – and I have no platform really to say anything like this, this grandiose – but I want to say it in the atmosphere at Mobile bay.
“I want to say to America, and I want to say to Israel and to all their Arab neighbours, and I want to say to Great Britain – and all the nations – I want to say to you:
“You are about to see something come to pass in the very near future that your mind cannot even wrap around.
“It’s going to be so magnanimous, it’s going to be so awe-full, it’s going to be so awesome…and the nations and the kings and the politicians of the earth will not even know how to respond – their mouths will be open!
“It’s going to be a day LIKE NO OTHER DAY! – but when all is said and done God will reclaim Israel and God will pour out His grace and His mercy, even upon the United States of America!
“I believe the revival is going to come to the nations of the earth!”
Amen.
The emboldened paragraphs indicate John’s emphasised phrases. These brought the distinctive ‘tell-tale’ reaction to a Holy Spirit anointed speech within Nina of her groaning as she winces from a sudden burst of intense, internal ‘fire’.
In other words and in my humble opinion:
Revd. John Kilpatrick has issued a prophetic decree from the Lord God to every world leader.
Hear it at 2:24:45 of this this video, wherein John begins his message at 1:11:00.
May you be mightily blessed in reading, hearing and weighing these words.
PS. Read next post about what was already happening in this regard for Israel.
For ease of reference the previous part is now separated for each person and I’ve also transcribed more of this important material, shown as blue text below. As in Part 2, the emphases are given to convey this speaker’s inflexions and emphasis.
Charlie Shamp
Resurrection Sunday brought some surprise healings and a sprinkling of glittering dust after a long time spent worshipping, as described in the first of three reports here, with following video and analytical commentary.
Those surprises followed from what Charlie Shamp, from the States, had said about what he sees happening in England. He began by saying,
“There’s coming to this country signs and wonders that this country’s never seen before – and you’re part of that. We’re birthing something that has never been in this country. I know you’ve had miracles, you’ve had salvations, you’ve had outbreaks of the Spirit, of great awakenings – but as far as it goes with a movement of signs and wonders – with manifestations, not just prophecies – but manifestations of tangible glory; then what you’re about to see, what’s coming right now, what’s being birthed into this nation right now…has never been seen before.Continue reading →
Thank you Tony for sharing these significant dreams and the relevance to A W Tozer’s prophetic word. The dreams seem akin to my recent post The Babylonian aspect of the Church’s ‘New Era’, which concludes that the new ‘Season of Suddenlies’ will result in a radical difference between the two kinds of believers and churches – those in worldly ‘Babylon’ and the ‘New Era’ Spirit-led remnant. I believe this separation and shifting may have already started. PS: I don’t always agree with Jacob Prasch but his deep concern over the CoE’s unwillingness to fight the SSM Bill lines up with Tony’s dreams.
I had the 2 dreams below almost a year ago. They both have to do with the fate of the church as we have come to know it. I am re-posting both because I recently came across a 50 year old prophecy from A. W. Tozer which I feel fits in line with these 2 dreams that I had. See what the Lord would speak to you on the matter.
I had a dream 07/02/2013 just before waking up. In the dream I saw a church building on what I will call an ocean. The church building was, as you might have guessed, sinking because it was not built for the water but for dry land. What I saw next is row boats coming from the sinking church and although the water was choppy, they were able to stay afloat because they were constructed to do so. And, unlike…
For readers overseas unaware of UK news, Mrs Maria Miller resigned yesterday as Secretary of State in David Cameron’s coalition government. On Tuesday, the date of my posting, mainstream media were in manic-mode. Not taking time to do other than glance at headlines I noted some speculated that senior Tories wanted her out because of her role in redefining marriage.
Most of the anger was from voters over Parliament allowing MP’s to feather their own nest. Also many in government were ‘getting it’, even if Dave couldn’t. Today’s Times reports the Chancellor George Osborn led the revolt against the PM’s insisting that his Secretary of State should not go.
Too many ‘talking-heads’ spouted tosh about the issue but the simple scriptural fact of mocking God remains, as I’d pointed out on Tuesday. I’d already gone into depth at the close of 2012 on the grounds for questioning his poor judgement in deciding to change marriage (here).
Later, in Something good… I expressed concern over the personal responsibility the PM and his Secretary had both assumed in going against the holy foundations of marriage. It is there, at his position, where ‘the buck stops’ for what’s happened on his watch. If you’re interested, Peter Oborn, Telegraph’s chief political commentator offers some constructive points upon the PM’s paying the price for a grievous lapse of judgement, as here.
Will that price mean following in Mrs Miller’s footsteps?
Daniel Pipes – no longer banned
Further to one of his readers finding the British Library had blocked online access to his websites, Daniel and a number of his subscribers contacted the Library direct.
He is pleased to report that their office admitted their mistake and promptly corrected it. They advised him this situation had occurred as a result of a software blocking facility, but he’s pursuing the matter further because it allows access to terrorist jihadi sites.
‘Provocative’ because a couple of associated events in tandem can make people pause for serious thought. ‘Provocative’, because how and what happened has generated a growing furore not only in Parliament but also amongst voters. ‘Provocative’, because a key spiritual principle is involved which many ignore or refuse to consider, let alone concede it’s correct.
‘Coincidental’ – ha, is it? How can two apparently unrelated events happen yet again, that is, together at the same time by mere random chance. This re-appearance pivots around one lady intimately involved in both events and who directed the main one which closely involves her boss. And now he’s stuck in the second strand. The timing of this ‘chance’ strongly points to the distinct possibility of its being fore-ordained, even a sort of ‘God incidence’.
I humbly submit that the coincidental events around these matters indicate the Lord is keenly aware of what’s going on, and is pointing to His ‘behind the scenes’ activity – for those who may discern it.
Before we proceed, a caveat is necessary. As in previous coverage of this topic, all my comments are observational and not to be construed as being judgemental. I wish only to reiterate what the Lord stated through His Son, as revealed by Holy Spirit inspiration of anointed apostles, prophets and teachers, and add my personal opinion. So let me first explain:
A key spiritual principle
Do not be deceived, God is not mocked; for whatever a man sows, that he will also reap. For he who sows to his flesh will of the flesh reap corruption, but he who sows to the Spirit will of the Spirit reap everlasting life. (Galatians 6:7-8 NKJV)
Over twenty years ago it was important for me, a new believer rescued from the New Age and occult, to get the past healed and its ‘klingons’ dealt with. This was beyond the skills of the Baptist church the Lord directed me to, and so He pointed out certain books by those who’d also come out of Satan’s camp, as recounted here. Then I was directed to a ministry in the north of England specialising in the inner healing and deliverance I’d already read about.
Books by John Sandford were foundational reading and I found he’d been in the same groups as me. Having a scientific background, I was struck by the claim that scripture has laws which are universal in function and application – as in physics – one of which is sowing and reaping. (Read an excellent outline at Elijah House Ministries.)
Therefore, I’ve referred to that principle, as in Galatians 6 above, when blogging about the redefining of marriage as, for example, in several posts of December 2012.
In asking Does David Cameron’s decision line up with the Bible? I noted a developing scandal involving Maria Miller, Secretary of State for Culture, Media and Sport, who’s responsible for introducing the new marriage law. Therefore, I also asked, “…is all this going to be part of the ‘holy shaking’; that is, of everything not of God?”, bearing the promise in mind of Hebrews 12, viz:
See that you do not refuse Him who speaks. For if they did not escape who refused Him who spoke on earth, much more shall we not escape if we turn away from Him who speaks from heaven, 26 whose voice then shook the earth; but now He has promised, saying, “Yet once more I shakenot only the earth, but also heaven.”27 Now this, “Yet once more,” indicates the removal of those things that are being shaken, as of things that are made, that the things which cannot be shaken may remain.
28 Therefore, since we are receiving a kingdom which cannot be shaken, let us have grace, by which we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear. 29 For our God is a consuming fire. (BibleGateway – emphases added)
And now guess what?
Within hours of the new law coming into effect the scandal erupted over that minister’s abuse of Parliamentary allowances for personal expenses!
On Friday 28th March, whilst several same-sex couples were looking forward to being legally ‘married’ just after midnight, journalists at the Telegraph were drafting the latest in that paper’s 5 year investigative scoop on the MP’s expenses scandal. At 10.00 pm, just ahead of the new marriage laws becoming operative, the paper’s Senior Political Correspondent, Investigations Editor and Whitehall Editor broke the news online.
Already going to print was Saturday’s broadsheet Daily Telegraph with inside pages reporting, ‘Cameron welcomes first gay marriages’, plus a few related items. One about priests being urged to defy the Anglican Church crept into the bottom of the front page, BUT the topmost headline reads:
Cabinet minister abused expenses -Maria Miller, Culture Secretary, made £1m profit after overclaiming for her mortgage
Oh what a surprise? I don’t mean about the minister’s activities, but the fact this news has coincided with the manifestation of what she and David Cameron engineered.
‘It is almost five years since The Telegraph broke the parliamentary expenses scandal. The revelation that some MPs had abused the expenses system – perpetrating, in some cases, outright fraud – rocked public confidence in British democracy. It led to resignations, deselections, electoral defeats and even the imprisonment of some of the worst offenders. Promises were made that things would be different in the future, that there would be house-cleaning and reform. Failure in some quarters to live up to those fine ambitions is why voters remain so disdainful of Parliament and politicians…’
Readers unfamiliar with this sorry saga wanting an overview will find the whole affair summarised in:
This last by an ex-trade union official points to the danger in this affair: threatening the freedom of the press. The penultimate item from the Guardian refers to Miller’s other indefensible threat against the independent Parliamentary Standards Commissioner. That is, not so much questionable expense claims, but her other consequential actions are doubly dangerous!
The whole affair stinks! It is an exceptionally outrageous situation and, as she refuses to resign and PM Cameron refuses to dismiss her, then maybe his ‘fate’ is tied to hers. Not an unreasonable conjecture in view of their mocking the Lord’s ordinance on marriage and the family.
A personal opinion
Personally, as a retired servant of Her Majesty with responsibility for inviting and letting works contracts, and the financial control of major building projects directly responsible to HM Treasury, I am appalled by the unconscionable conduct of this MP.
Is the Living Lord God indicating He isn’t to be mocked and, thereby, letting those who are responsible fall into personal difficulties of their own making?
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Frustrating because what I’d drafted for this week needed postponing in view of other material for immediate publication. Yet exciting because what I was going to write on a dimension behind what Dr Stone said on the Lord’s invitation to the threshing floor links into what we heard on Sunday! And it was delivered as a clearly prophetic statement!
In addition, there’s indirect support for a supposition made when I started writing.
So, it’s extremely exciting yet frustrating because things are happening so rapidly. As John stressed, the Lord is working very fast – we can so easily miss what He’s doing.
It’s hard to keep up and to write in the available time slots. In fact, my intention to share quick notes on John Kilpatrick’s teaching upon the ‘Redefinement’ word got held up for I needed to check some bits against the archived Sunday service. CHP are quick do that but it seems news of Steve Hill’s passing took precedence. The the video came online a little later in the day but there was a technical hitch that needed my referral to a friend on staff there.
I trust that you may have grasped there’s a significance to what follows and take time not only to read but also to watch the pastor’s exceptional teaching. First and if you’re still with me, and even disagree, here’s what I wrote awaiting the archived video:
UK & US Sunday services
In Sunday morning’s service at Church of His Presence pastor John Kilpatrick reported how, whilst awakening from sleep in Texas last month, the Lord gave notice of what He will be doing during the next three months. In ‘100 days of Redefinement’ this seems to be specifically for CHP and cities, but it is definitely applicable to ALL churches.
With reference to that word’s mention of Jesus’ disciple Simon being renamed as Peter, John emphasised he wasn’t the only one whose identity was re-moulded and became renewed. Ordinarily, we refer to many in the New Testament as being healed by Jesus or the apostles, as though that defined their lives. But, in fact, the effect of God’s direct work upon them completely ‘re-defined’ and transformed them from that moment on. So Peter could accomplish what God intended, which he wouldn’t have been able to as ‘Simon’, so too for Abraham and Sarah, Jacob and Paul.
In this respect, pastor was re-iterating what we’d heard that same morning in church in UK – seems it’s the ‘Bridge Over The Pond’ effect once again! Our minister taught in depth on ‘Transformation’ and being merged IN Christ, and included some words of wisdom from Paul Keith Davis. Our aim should be to be holy and become like Him.
Paul Keith is of the opinion that the Lord comes to bless and anoint what’s like Him. So, His power and presence finds a platform in people who focus upon Him and His holy character to the exclusion of all else and “He anoints His nature”.
Therefore, in assessing John’s gift of bringing words from the Living God it’s helpful to be aware that the Lord has used him to host two major moves of revival in repentance and in healing.
[Next, with the video available to check and expand my jottings on John’s explanation of ‘Redefinement’ I found it more important to transcribe these prophetic words. In fact, the pastor wants to go on the record for what he’s conveyed, as below.]
Under the Holy Spirit’s unction
With this in mind we need to note Pastor John Kilpatrick’s summary to his detailed discourse upon ‘Redefinement’, its ‘Season of Suddenlies’ and what God is now about to do in the earth. Pointing to Isaiah 28:21 on-screen (is shown below) he states:
“The Holy Spirit says that we are entering into a season where God is going to resort to strange works and strange actsto show the nations of the world He’s still in charge…He’s still in charge.
“And trust me on this, you’ll know what I’m talking about. Holy Spirit told me back in 2009, you remember – He gave me the word ‘R.e.s.u.r.r.e.c.t.i.o.n.’ and one of the words (within that) was that there’s going to be signs in the heavens and there’s been many of them; you can go to the internet and check them out and see what’s happening in the heavens – much of it hasn’t been reported..
“We’re entering into a season right now…where these ‘strange works’ and ‘strange acts’ have to do with the planetary system and to do with the universe.
“The time is going to come when Israel’s going to be assailed from all sides. You know as well as I do that the Bible clearly predicts in Ezekiel 38 and 39 that Russia is going to come against Israel and invade Israel…and in the very week that we’re talking about cutting our army and armed forces down to the smallest army since before WWII…
“And what God is about to do in regard to Israel, I can’t tell you everything because I don’t have the full picture…but I do know the other day the Holy Spirit said to me:
“Don’t minimise that scripture about My strange acts and my strange works!”
“Don’t minimise that because God said,
“I will pull out all stops to show that I AM the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. I will pull out all stops to let the world know that I swore to Abraham this land, and anybody that fools with what I swore to by Myself will have to pay the consequences.”
“So let me just speak this out. I speak that in the near future the nations on earth will see on television, and by other means, God’s strange works and His strange acts. Trust me on this. It’s coming and there’s nothing a soul in the world can do about it.
“It’s past men’s ability to touch it and to do anything about it, but God is going to be glorified. There will come a day when people entering their churches, [of whatever denomination], when people walk across the threshold…they’ll be shaking and trembling knowing what God is about to do, and what He’s already done on the earth. They’ll know there’s a real God and there’s going to come a holy fear upon people like they’ve never seen before!
“There’ll be a brand new respect – hear me! – there’ll be a brand new respect for God and for the Holy Spirit unlike anything the Church has ever seen…
“I’m not going to say this or that’s going to happen in the next 100 days but God is getting ready to redefine His Church and He’s getting ready for us to get ready to see what we’ve never seen in our lifetime…”
John returns to the examples of Biblical leaders whom God had redefined in order to serve His purposes fully, and then prophesies how this applies to churches.:
“It’s going to happen, going to work both ways with churches – listen…
“There are churches that are really ‘a remnant’, and they’re really God-fearing. They really love Jesus and really are focused upon the End-Times and the coming of Christ, and they really want to serve God…God’s going to redefine those churches so they’re going to become more powerful than they’ve ever become –
“BUT there’s also going to be other churches that have ‘left their first love’ and they’ve gone the way of the world – and they’re going to have their ‘candlestick’ removed. They’re going to be redefined and the way they’re going to be redefined is: they’re NOT anywhere going to be ready for the soon coming of Jesus Christ!
“There is a SHIFTING going on RIGHT NOW. There is a TRUE SHIFTING going on right now, where God is going to redefine ‘the remnant’ into another thing and He’s going to take the wordly, compromising, so-called church and He’s going to redefine them and they won’t be able to come into what God’s got for them! It will be like, and as real as, removing a candlestick from a candlebra.
“So that’s the word that the Lord sent me here to give today…”
That final point is very interesting confirmation of what I suggested in an email 5 years ago about the End-game coming into play with ‘a sifting of the Church’ turning into ‘a sHifting’! Thank you Lord.
Scripture
For scriptural authority for the concept of God’s surprise action, John quoted Acts 2:2 and 1 Corinthians 15 where the Church was founded suddenly and where it will be ‘taken’ suddenly. Also Romans 9:28
For He will finish the work and cut it short in righteousness, because a short work the Lord will make upon the earth,
as well as Isaiah 10:26 and especially 28:21, where God speaks of doing things very quickly:
For the Lord shall rise up as in mount Perazim, he shall be wroth as in the valley of Gibeon, that he may do his work, his strange work; and bring to pass his act, his strange act.[From KJV. The NKJV renders the last as ‘His awesome work…His unusual act’ and notes ‘unusual’ literally means ‘foreign’!]
Recommendation
These meagre notes cannot do justice to exceptional teaching under a strong unction of the Holy Spirit. There were at least a couple of times other than quoted above when John spoke very prophetically. For example:
In the season that we’re entering into the Lord says, “I’m going to cut things short”. The Bible says He’s going to cut the days short. I don’t think that you and I here today can comprehend what I’m really saying, because I can’t… Just listen carefully – we don’t realise how fast God’s going to speed things up and expedite things! It will happen so fast you won’t even have time to praise Him!
Therefore, this teaching is well worth attentive study, starting at 1:32:25 of this video, Season of Suddenlies. From the offset he stresses the importance of this being a ‘kairos’ moment or ‘now’ word.
Also, note that 5 years ago the Lord told my fellow watcher to be aware of what Russia gets up to, as well as other matters. Read those very brief details from CHP downloads link by selecting ‘R.E.S.U.R.R.E.C.T.I.O.N. – a prophetic insight for the future’.
A lot’s happened in the 5 years since I started writing to friends on 28th February 2009 about current events prophesied in the Bible. The first email opened by explaining my grounds for doing so.:
“Last year, I encountered two conflicting claims about Jesus’ explanation of the parable on the end-time harvest of wheat and tares (Matt 13:36). So I went to check scripture but upon opening my Bible a deep excitement exploded within as I heard,
“This is ALL about to be fulfilled!”
WOW! Hence, my previous remarks about a sifting of the Church – in preparation for a rapid ‘sHifting’?”
My contacts had already been established over the previous year. As they were all familiar with scripture it wasn’t always necessary for me to quote or explain meanings. However, with that change in direction upon my hearing direct from the Lord it was opportune to stress the associated scripture, as follows.:
“Jesus urged His disciples to look out for and observe signs of the times. Regarding their questions about His return at the end of this Age, the earliest Gospel account has Jesus stressing 7 times,“Watch…be alert…on your guard“(Mark 13). Matthew 24 reports Jesus saying 4 times, “Watch…and when you see…” followed by the parables of the burglar and of the virgins:> “Don’t be caught napping!” [Is the Church still asleep?] Luke’s account has,“Be always on the watch…” (ch21:36) and chpt 12 (NIV) has sections on watchfulness and interpreting the times. In each Gospel Jesus commands,“Learn the lesson of the fig tree…”.Also, the Apostles went on to give more indicators…”
Regular contacts had started over a controversial move of the Lord in 2008 in Lakeland, Florida. This had featured healing evangelist Todd Bentley, whose rather rough, logger background and highly unconventional ways generated a heated debate in Christian circles.
I believe the Lord used it to test which disciples are really committed to applying His command to “Love one another”, which is how “the world may know the Father sent me” (John 17:23). Perhaps this would sift out those who are not yet ready for the more demanding move into this ‘New Season’?
Funnily enough each player involved 5 years ago has also been in direct contact with me this week: ‘Revd’ Bill’ – PK Davis (ace teaching on Matt 13 above) – ‘LL’ in reference to TB and Lakeland !!
That first email of 2009 referred to the increasing politicised provocation against believers within the UK, as well as the surveillance against which a director of MI5 warned. We’re well aware of rapidly discriminatory actions against believers in the last 5 years. But abroad, real persecution and terrorism have rocketed in the Muslim world, being most critical in northern Nigeria. So we’ve had it comparatively easy in Britain, but British and American leaders show an atheistic disinterest and lack of compassion over this dire situation.
We’ve also seen the rapid development of anti-Semitism and the creation of the alliance of Middle-Eastern nations prophesied in Ezekiel 38. I’ve written increasingly on this under the descriptor ‘Ezekiel Alliance’, or Gog-Magog. As Zechariah prophesied about Jerusalem, there have been intensifying discussions and sabre-rattling; the latest being that Mahmoud Abbas erupted in a rage over US Secretary Kerry’s proposal for the Palestinian capital to be located not in Jerusalem but elsewhere! (See Zech 12 and Israel Today report.)
That email read as follows:
The End-Game is Now In Play
Dear Friends – further to Rev’d Bill’s recent request re Christian Freedom, may I offer some observations upon our times and, in another message, suggest a way forward?
[Next 2 paragraphs as quoted in blue text above]
So, let’s watch closely what’s happening here and globally. When I’m by a newstand it’s noticeable that the Daily Telegraph is the only paper to headline matters of Christian concern – several within a fortnight recently. Eg. on 6 Feb it broke the news of Nurse Caroline Petrie’s suspension for offering to pray for a patient with front page headline ‘NHS staff face sack if they discuss religion’. We took exception to this and wrote to N.Somerset PCT saying we were glad their policy wasn’t in effect 3 years ago when Nina was fighting for her life! (I explained it was only because the night-duty nurse prayed that her throat immediately opened and she became peaceful, as shown on her monitor’s read-out.) So, we’re pleased to learn Caroline has been allowed to return to work, but I’m challenging the PCT’s ‘equality’ stance.
However, this is just one instance of the growing persecution of believers, principally through a policy supposedly promoting toleration but that’s now a tyrannical tool of intolerance – Equality & Diversity. There are other powers of suppression. Even the previous director of MI5 warns about UK sleep-walking into a police state (‘Abject nonsense’ responded a gov’t minister who lives on another planet). Rampant lawlessness now exists not only in society but also within legal authorities – laws not approved by Parliament – ‘snoop and snitch’ culture – correction punished and evil behaviour rewarded – ID cards and routine interception of email and phones – etc etc. Clearly, Banking isn’t the only thoroughly corrupt UK institution.//Let us, however, keep our eyes fixed on Jesus as we await the blessed hope of His glorious appearing.
May the Lord bless you and keep you and yours,
This continued in an associated 2nd email, as here.
A reader emailed that Arthur ‘went home’ to the Lord on Thursday 28th August, aged 102 years.
THANK YOU LORD FOR HIS LIFE AND BE WITH HIS FAMILY AT THIS TIME.
The original post published on 27th February 2014 is featured, together with his daughter Mary’s subsequent clarifications, as here, in commemoration of this remarkable servant of our Lord. A consideration of the following prophecies may be read here. The original posts reads as follows… Continue reading →
“…And blessed be God Most High, Who has delivered your enemies into your hand.” (Gen 14:20)
The above led into Tuesday morning’s daily prayer for the nation from Keep Praying and Bless. (We’ve continued using this intercessory paper published for the Olympic Torch relay of 2012). As though answering my thoughts about following the previous day’s post on Bob Jones, that verse was followed appropriately by:
We decree that the Church in the British Isles will be delivered from old mindsets and will walk in the new mantle God is placing on His Bride, for a time such as this.
It also fitted with a private issue over religious legalism. We then prayed a set, specific blessing and the Aaronic blessing for a couple of towns, followed by the day’s blessing.:
We bless His Bride to be washed with the water of His Word and to be filled with the law of the Spirit of Life.
That reflects the second part of a prophecy through Smith Wigglesworth (as here), which has been implemented by the Baptist Union’s acceptance a few years ago of applying the Word with the Spirit. I trust, therefore, you’ll bear with my musings before covering prophetical aspects. There are sound reasons for my confidence in how the Lord has led me in all this. So I trust you will be encouraged in what follows below and in the next post published in tandem with this one.
I’ve wondered what’s Lord’s view of, or influence upon, the severe storms and extensive deep flooding across England, with the west taking the brunt of the violence. Is it climate change? Are these events at all prophetic? There was even an earthquake between Wales and Devon (click map for details)! is it a sign of a Hebrews 12 ‘shaking’?
It’s no surprise that the Met Office forecast of a ‘drier than normal’ winter was utterly wrong! At least we’re not alone – in Slovenia thick blankets of ice killed many trees and caused more flooding (thanks Kim).
Today’s news is that it’s officially the “Wettest winter for England and Wales since 1766”,according to early Met Office statistics (click map for report’s details).
In fact, I’d surprised myself by not being judgemental over the storms in assuming it’s all the ‘wrath of God’!
Upon taking a walk a couple of weeks ago I impulsively decided to listen to Paul Keith Davis’ cd The Days of Noah. Speaking mainly from Hebrews 11 and Matthew 24, he adds, “Light is accelerating and so is darkness…there’s a body of knowledge coming that’s essentialfor us (the church) to survive”, and refers to Isaiah 60 on the deep darkness covering the earth versus the light of God’s people.
I noted his stressing that Noah had been “warned about things not yet seen…” and that, had he not had the spirit of revelation, he too would have perished in the Flood. Also, Noah honoured his great-grandfather Enoch who “walked with God” and was father of the oldest person, Methuselah. He was given that name because Enoch said, “When he dies it will come” for he already knew about the Flood, which came almost 1,000 years later. Keith had read in Jewish teaching that the deluge started 7 days after Methuselah died. (For fascinating details see Dr Chuck Missler, The Gospel in Genesis.)
That’s as much as I heard on my walk for I had to linger over those ideas. The reference to a prophecy being fulfilled after a person’s death particularly stuck in mind because I’d been mulling a similar one over in connection with Gabriel’s message. (That’s yet to be concluded but now I see how this information makes that not only easier to grasp but also gives a Biblical basis for connecting prophesied events with a person’s passing.)
Who is to blame for the storms?
Upon my return home, an email from someone whose views I respect urged calling the nation together to repent because we’ve spurned Him, and seek God’s forgiveness. He posits that demonic incantations officially broadcast in closing the 2012 Olympic Games acted as a curse to flood the land and affected our weather. Thus, the violent storms hitting Britain could be a foretaste of chaos to come unless there’s a spiritual change in our national life. Yet, if that’s so, why was last year’s weather not unusual? (Met Office 2013 annual report refers.)
That all needed mulling over. I had reservations because it imputed a greater power to paganism than the hundreds of Christian prayers and declarations made in the lead up to the Games, especially afterwards at the National Day of Prayer at Wembley. And what about the nationwide ringing of Jubilee Bells and declarations to negate ungodly, cultic Olympic prayers? (See ‘2012’ in blog Library.)
Also, I recalled Dr Sharon Stone received a word from the Lord on a specific, spiritual meaning to Hurricane Sandy that indicated a turning point in Church history. It would also point toward a shaking of reprobate American society and the necessity of turning to Jesus! She did not, however, speak judgmentally.
There was also a personal dream of warning that I’d had about weather and so I wasn’t so sure about the spiritual nature of the storms. Quite a bit to weigh and pray…
In addition, we hear in Monday’s video about two hurricanes arriving in Mobile, one that stopped as directed by the Lord, and the other satanic one smashed along the coast.
Prophecies on the 2014 Storms
So in parallel with this post, I will offer what I believe is significant information on this topic from Kathie Walters, who prophesied in 2012 not only about the Queen’s Jubilee Bells, but who also directly connected it to Arthur Burt’s prophecy of 1937. (See It’s Time to Ring Out Those Bells!)
Also, we will learn from her about the link with the late prophet Bob Jones!
This personal reflection by Paul Keith upon his long, close friendship with the ‘prophet of love’, Bob Jones, is fascinating. We learn how they met, what Bob was like, about his ministry and more…
Readers unfamiliar with revelatory or prophetical material may find his statements novel but, rest assured, this video is well-worth watching.
To give a flavour, here’s a few notes on what Keith divulges:
Bob operated strongly in the Daniel anointing of dream interpretation. Not only did he have advance knowledge of the content of another’s dreams but he would also know its meaning – and even be in it with them!
That was very clear in Keith’s first meeting with Bob when, with Bobby Conner, they held their first public meeting and demolished a stronghold of witchcraft.
Bob’s prophetic gifting would flow continually over several days.
Accurate prophecies about two revivals – Pensecola/Brownsville and The Bay of The Holy Spirit – as well as two hurricanes striking the same place (Mobile bay).
Bob’s earlier death and why he was returned to earthly life, and a later attempt by the spirit of death to prevent his completing his ordained destiny.
Their trip into hell and its purpose in connection with an unsaved person. (I was reminded of when I stood upon hell’s trapdoor; as told here.)
His passing on St Valentines Day – Keith surmises it’s not so much that Bob is a prophet of love but that its significance is about Time – a ‘tick’ of God’s prophetic clock and what’s about to happen globally with billions coming into the Kingdom!
Re. Daniel 7:26-27 and John 16:8-11 – the judgement has been, or is about to be, made in favour of the saints and the Spirit of Truth released upon the earth.
Those are just a few and exclude the meaning of two asteroids heading toward earth! (It reminds me of what demolished the idol in Nebuchadnezzar’s dream – Dan 2.) If you’re interested, I’m sure you’ll make the opportunity to watch this 90 minute video. There’s so much wisdom for us to learn from both men of God. Some, I know, may have reservations but this may be addressed as you read on…
Defeating Compromise
Today, I received an email from Keith on his work with Bob in understanding previous moves of the Holy Spirit. They investigated what was done properly and what brought about a decline, what has been lost or why an original mandate wasn’t fully achieved. In opening, he explains:
One of the last conversations I had with Bob Jones dealt with our great need to remain true to God’s word and alleviate spiritual compromise. Bob was a man who clearly remained true to his beliefs and represented the prophetic gospel with boldness, without yielding to the compromise of political correctness. I wrote this article based upon the revelatory encounter that he had and the understanding we gleaned from our conversations on the subject. I believe it is a very relevant word for this hour.
Clearly this nation and the church are presently going through a great shaking. Naturally, our first question is to understand the Holy Spirit’s objective during this season. What do we need to gleam from these tests and trials?
As I have been asking the Lord this question I was reminded of a prophetic article that Bob Jones and I brought several years ago…
Scrutiny of these revivals will highlight one principal spirit of a
diabolical nature that has facilitated this demise. It can simply be identified as the “spirit of compromise”. (Emphases mine)
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Keith is referring to the USA but this applies to the UK too, as we may gather in Gillan Scott’s latest blog about Anglicans compromising with the world.
Our prophet continues by recounting Bob’s deep visionary experience and revelatory insights about how this satanic spirit shipwrecks advances within churches, and how it can be most effectively countered and defeated through using the Sword of the Spirit – namely, the living Word of God.
To read the letter in full, watch out for its publication on WhiteDove Ministries’ website.
Bob on Arthur Burt
I will soon cover what Bob Jones said about Arthur Burt’s ministry. [NOW published in two parts beginning here.]
Meanwhile, you may be interested in Bob’s account of his first death and its effect upon him, as recounted here, and this earlier video of a conversation between Keith and his other close friend, Bobby Conner.
A British breakfast TV interview circulating ‘over the pond’ among American Christians brings attention to injustices suffered by a couple of hoteliers at the hands of our courts.
I was intrigued to find two translations of the Bible directly relevant to both sides of the interview’s controversial point!
First of all, thanks are due to John McTernan for linking to a transcript in Monday’s blog Real Christianity on display, and to Tony Puccio for informing me of its email circulation in Arizona.
NB: this post’s stats occasionally show ‘peak viewing’ when it gets circulated. So I’d ask that it be read in the spirit it is written.
Let’s look at the issue together as I ‘flesh it out’.:
ITV, Britain’s first commercial station, broadcasts Daybreak as a morning magazine. Its presenters Aled Jones and Lorraine Kelly interviewed Peter and Hazelmary Bull the day before they appealed to the UK Supreme Court over a £3,600 fine for refusing to rent one of their hotel’s double-bedded rooms to a homosexual couple. As clearly stated on their website, rooms were available for married men and women only. (The Bulls are supported by The Christian Institute and further details, including on-going reports may be found under Bulls’ B&B Trial.)
Aled Jones’ faith
Aled Jones is well known as a former treble chorister and singer with many albums to his credit, as well as presenter of BBC’s Songs Of Praise (see MirrorTV brief ‘bio’). It’s a typical anodyne BBC programme, however when speaking to journalist Catherine Francis for Inspire magazine, he said the programme attracts millions of viewers from around the world and,
“Songs Of Praise aims to uplift and spiritually enhance its viewers, whether or not they’re Christian, and they need to feel comfortable watching it. It’s a genuine honour to be associated with it…”
She continues, ‘And Aled’s passion is clear to see about the Christian faith,
“Christianity is real, it’s now, it’s happening and it’s exciting – it’s not sedate or simply part of history. Jesus toppled over the market stalls in the Temple – this is a person with passion, a person with love, with blood running through his veins. That’s what it’s all about for me.”
Well said sir, and I think it’s important to keep that in mind when considering today’s matter. Has he changed his views?
The Daybreak interview
The interview has been transcribed fairly accurately by Dr Michael Brown, a scholar, speaker and author of 22 books, including The Real Kosher Jesus. He blogged it a week ago today as An older woman puts today’s compromised preachers to shame. Therein he sets the scene.:
At a time when so many of our Christian leaders are guilty of compromising the gospel before the media, dishonouring the Lord as they try to make God’s Word palatable to the world, it was an older British woman…who displayed a backbone of steel, a deep and consistent faith, and a theological clarity while being grilled on national TV. Cheers for Hazelmary Bull!
And make no mistake about it. This is not some slick, camera-friendly couple, versed in the latest clichés and fitted with the coolest wardrobe. This is a couple grounded in the Word and committed to Jesus. Today’s Christian leaders could learn well from their example.
Jones took the lead and started with a neutral ‘voice-over’ video outlining the case. The presenters were not unpleasant but wanted to know why the Bulls were contesting the loss of their Appeal in 2012. It may have got intense because of their seeming inability to grasp the Bull’s Biblical position. Or were they just acting professionally on behalf of a religiously illiterate British audience and consequently asking questions from a simplistic viewpoint?
Whatever their approach, it helped the Bull’s present their case clearly and admirably. Take a look at the video clip:
Here’s the transcript section of Dr Brown’s short article; his comments in italics.:
When asked why they were going ahead with the appeal after all they had been through, Hazelmary replied,
“The reason we have continued with this is because we feel there are arguments still to be made, because we are hoping that some way or another, a pathway will be found through this so that two different lifestyles—which at the moment have had a head-on collision—two different lifestyles could live together in our society.”
Her purpose, then, is marked by conviction and conciliation: How can we live together in the same society when we have such different convictions?
Lorraine Kelly: “May I suggest that maybe you are in the wrong business? Because when you think about it, only 47 percent of couples now are actually married, so when you do that, you forget all the arguments and all the rest, but actually from a business sense, sure, it doesn’t make any sense.”
Hazelmary Bull: “No, on the face of it, it looks like that because we have always refused a double-bedded accommodation to unmarried heterosexual couples.”
When challenged by Kelley, Hazelmary explained, “It’s Bible-based; it’s entirely Bible-based.”
(Pastors, take note of her words. This is how we should operate our local assemblies as well, based on the Word, not on marketing principles.)
Aled Jones: “As a Christian, the God you worship is a loving God, is a tolerant God. And if people are in a civil partnership, they are obviously in love, so what is wrong with them sharing a bed?”
(Note that Jones came to national fame as a hymn-singing child, and in 2004 he was voted Religious Broadcaster of the Year by the Churches Media Council for his work with Songs of Praise. He still hosts BBC’s Songs of Praise show, and within the last four years he has released albums featuring hymns and Christmas songs. What in the world happened to Aled Jones?)
How does Hazelmary reply to his challenge? You’ve got to love this!
HB: “I think it’s a myth to believe that entirely. He is a loving God, that’s true. He’s a forgiving God, but there is—
AJ: “And a tolerant one?”
HB: “He is a longsuffering God; He’s not entirely tolerant because the Bible is full of cases when He does finally bring judgment about. We felt that we wanted to, as far as possible, live according to His instructions, and the Bible is very clear about marriage.
Boy, did she nail it! There is a difference between God being longsuffering and God being tolerant, and yes, “He’s not entirely tolerant because the Bible is full of cases when he does finally bring judgment about.”
Do you think we’ll be hearing a lot of lines like that from some of the pastors featured on The Preachers of L.A.?
LK: “It’s 2013…2013!”
MB: “God hasn’t changed; Jesus says He’s the same yesterday, today and forever. He hasn’t changed, the Bible hasn’t changed, and we are wrong—we are living in a dream—if we think that He has changed His laws to suit us, because that’s not the case at all.”
Exactly! Most of the world is living in a dream. In fact, much of the church is living in a dream too, having been put to sleep by smooth-tongued preachers who have watered down the Word in a futile attempt to make it “contemporary.”
LK: “So you don’t accept that you have done anything wrong at all? You don’t accept that, that was offensive?”
MB: “We find this thoroughly regretful, because we clearly state that we prefer to let double-bedded accommodations to married couples.”
(She then explains, in answer to Kelly’s question, that this is clearly stated on the website.)
LK: “When two people come check in, how do you know that they are married or not?”
HB: “That’s a fair question. We have a script, and we try very hard not to offend. Remember, we have been there for 28 years, and this is the first time we have had any problems. We have a script whereby where we say very gently and politely, if one person shows up at the door—say it’s a male—we say, “Is this for you and your wife?” And oddly enough, they will say, “No, well, not actually my wife. We’re partners, or it’s my girlfriend or whatever”.”
How telling! They never had a problem when refusing an unmarried heterosexual couple over the course of 28 years, but when it comes to two gay men, the Bulls are brought to court.(RB emphasis)
Kelly then pointed to the low percentage of couples in the U.K. who are marrying, to which Hazelmary responded, “Well, I don’t know the numbers, and I’m not entirely interested in the numbers because of course we’re running this—”
LK: “Well, you should, as a businessperson…“
HB: “Well, we’re running this under our own roof, and God demands that our faith doesn’t end—”
LK: [interrupting with some hostility] “Your God demands. Your God.”
HB: [without batting an eyelash] “God demands that our faith doesn’t end at the kitchen door. He means for your faith to run in every corner of your life. You can’t just section Him off like that. So one would think that dealing with Christians, we would be fair and honest and upright and honourable and live according to the Bible, because the Bible is the Christian’s textbook.”
Bravo, Hazelmary Bull!
Now go watch the video, give it a thumbs up and share it with your friends. It’s a testimony like this that should go viral, rather than the words of some preacher who is waffling, unclear and not wanting to sound closed-minded or offensive.
Let’s speak the truth in love without making excuses, just as our courageous sister did. God Himself will back us, and the haters and mockers will not be able to shout us down.
Jones’ controversial question
As ‘good cop, bad cop’, Kelly and Jones played atheist Scot and anodyne believer who bowls a doctrinal googly,
“As a Christian, the God you worship is a loving God, is a tolerant God. And if people are in a civil partnership, they are obviously in love, so what is wrong with them sharing a bed?”
Bull: “I think it’s a myth to believe that entirely. He is a loving God, that’s true. He’s a forgiving God, but there is…”
Jones: “And a tolerant one?”
Bull: “He is a longsuffering God; He’s not entirely tolerant because the Bible is full of cases when He does finally bring judgment about. We felt that we wanted to, as far as possible, live according to His instructions, and the Bible is very clear about marriage.”
Many viewers, and readers, could take Jones’ point as reflecting his own conviction. However, is it not just as possible for him to have played ‘devil’s advocate’ in asking from a political stance, thereby to elicit and show the Bull’s strength of conviction?
Also, he may have had in mind a verse form Apostle Paul’s grand theological letter to believers in Rome, wherein he chides them over judging one another:
Or do you show contempt for the riches of his kindness, tolerance and patience, not realising that God’s kindness leads you towards repentance? (Romans 2:4)
That’s from my New International Version Insight Bible, but Mrs Bull adroitly responds from the very same verse as given in my New King James study Bible:
Or do you despise the riches of His goodness, forbearance, and longsuffering, not knowing that the goodness of God leads you to repentance?
Fascinating. The ‘protagonists’ use the same concept from slightly different translations. The original Greek is ‘anoches’, which means ‘tolerance’ but is rendered ‘forebearance’ in the Interlinear Greek Bible. Mrs Bull correctly clarifies it as being a conditional term, not a never-ending presumption upon the grace of God in Jesus Christ. Hence, the vital importance of their being in right standing with God’s decrees as revealed in His Word.
But not so for Aled Jones. Out of the confession from his own mouth, he has declared ‘As a Christian’ that there’s nothing wrong in homosexuality. Even if any of the reasons we considered above are relevant, nevertheless the declaration from his heart is what counts in heaven. It’s a far from sensible stance! It’s apostasy – the falling away from the tenets of Christian faith.
As Dr Brown queries, what has happened to Aled Jones?
Dubious doctrine
The controversial point of Jones’ question, of course, is not only his presuming God will turn a blind eye to sin (of any sort!) – but also the inference that gay relationships are approved by God. So, anyone unfamiliar with the issues could infer from his claim of being a Christian that such practice is sanctioned by believers, if not by the wider church.
Nothing could be more mistaken. Aled Jones is unwise to entertain dubious doctrine.
The correct Christian position on this subject was defined in the first formal gathering of strategic church leaders within twenty years of Jesus’ ascension. This apostolic event is known as the Jerusalem Council. We can be sure, therefore, of their thorough familiarity with Jesus’ teachings and instructions and, assisted by The Holy Spirit, would therefore make the correct decisions on any doctrinal issues.
The Council was called to discuss the admission of non-Jewish believers as followers of ‘The Way ‘ of Yeshua Ha Meshiach, Jesus Christ. According to the account in The Acts of The Apostles, the Jerusalem Decree sent to those Gentiles of Antioch, Syria, closed with the following basic stipulations upon admission to fellowship in Jesus.:
For it seemed good to the Holy Spirit, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things: that you abstain from things offered to idols, from blood, from things strangled, and from sexual immorality. If you keep yourselves from these, you will do well. (Acts 15:28-9 NKJV per BibleGateway.com; emphasis added)
That requirement to abstain from improper, non-marital relationships has never been rescinded. Only folly pretends redefining ‘marriage’ will alter the divine intention behind that declaration against immorality and fornication (porneias; Greek ‘of prostitution’).
It is logical, therefore, to state any consideration or claim to there being nothing wrong with allowing ‘porneia’ within the precincts of a Christian house is utterly absurd.
On the same day John McTernan blogged about this interview the news broke of Aled Jones and Lorraine Kelly being axed as presenters on Daybreak. Also, comments made online around that time haven’t been complimentary about them. Even back in August his position was in question.
It’s intriguing that a definite decision came fast on the heels of Aled’s declaration! Is it part of the promised ‘shaking’? I wonder…