Preface:

The purpose of my recounting these online conversations is to ensure visitors to this blog can appreciate that there’s a far deeper background to Israel’s ‘Day of Infamy’ on 6th October than is claimed by militant masses devoid of compassion, who instead complain vociferously about Palestinians being trampled down.

NB: many traditional Jews are opposed to Zionism and the creation of a national state of Israel.

In A Call for Clarity on Israel and Gaza (July 2014) I cite renowned British journalist Melanie Phillips:

“This thing ultimately defies rational explanation. As Islamist savagery spreads, the moral depravity of the Western animus against Israel and the Jews can only be described as a metaphysical psychosis.”

Why did the West turn against Israel? In answering, Melanie refers to the conventional explanation that, with the post-1967 ‘occupation’, modern David turned into Goliath.

In The West’s Metaphysical Psychosis Melanie provides a solid explanation by referring to Joshua Murvachik’s new book, Making David into Goliath: How the World Turned Against Israel. Eg. China’s oppression of Tibet didn’t produce the same reaction. In her review Melanie puts Murvachik’s illuminating analysis of the inexplicable into a nutshell – the Arab and Muslim world set out to bend the Western mind, and succeeded.’

COMMENTARIES CONT’D

Soon after that infamous day, John Barber posted his observations at JRB Publications Israel at War. What is Happening in Israel Today followed by yesterday’s Israel and Calvinism – two hot potatoes!, which generated ‘conversations’ on Facebook.

Also yesterday, as in the previous part 1, John shares John Hymus’ item and to which one of his regular contributors objects as to its history but rightly says the satisfactory answer must be a two-states solution.

NOW, that’s just what Netanyahu was working towards with Saudi Arabia BUT which goal is not what terrorist controllers of Gaza desire – hence hamas’ war-crime to stop development of the two-state solution.  Moreover, during negotiations of 1993 Oslo Peace Accords the Palestinian Authority often delayed progress!!!

‘P’, another regular with whom I’ve ‘discussed’ American politics, claims Israeli brutality against ordinary Palestinians and political frustration resulted in the nazi-style pogrom.

Obviously, both my protagonists are unfamiliar with hamas’ true, published objectives and the first, being an atheist, rebuked me as God that people believe in is the same whatever their faith.  So I told him Islam’s god is very different Io the real God with whom Christians are in a personal relationship.

‘P’ reacts: “This more than “Hot potatoes” this is murder of women and children. This coming from Jewish Voice for Peace…” (copy JVP article, the statistics of which are to be verified, saying Israel guilty of genocide and attacking West Bank Palestinians).

Being open-minded I wanted to check out this source, as I’d heard about Jewish Voice for Peace in connection with a mob inside the US Capitol led by an offensive Islamist.

I found JVP’s reaction to the massacre – but whilst regret over loss of lives, there’s NO condemnation of the barbarity. Upon spotting a key factual error of 20th Century history I reply to ‘P’ as follows:

“Upon checking JVP’s site and coverage of the barbaric massacre and kidnapping of hundreds of Jews during their sabbath, plus people from over 40 nations – not just an attack on Jews alone but also upon the global community! – I note they fail to mention it was a deliberate albeit undeclared act of war. However they excuse it with two wrongs DO make it right – thereby hypocritically copying Israel!

JVP article states, “The Israeli government may have just declared war, but its war on Palestinians started over 75 years ago. Israeli apartheid and occupation — and United States complicity in that oppression — are the source of all this violence. Reality is shaped by when you start the clock.”

War started by Israel “over 75 years ago” > WRONG! A LIE!

100 years ago during the rise of Arab nationalism Yasser Arafat’s uncle Haj Amin al-Husseini, who rose to become Grand Mufti of Jerusalem and close friend of Hitler, incited bloody anti-Jewish riots in 1920, ’29 & ’36 – AND to our great shame with connivance of British officials overseeing our Mandate of Palestine!!! https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/haj-amin-al-husseini

And after World War II, ARAB nations continued to wage war against the long-established and immigrant Jewish communities!

So, we need factual historical honesty, do we not?

As JVP claims reality is shaped when ‘the clock’ starts, it begs these questions:

• why have they got timing and associated facts wrong – and implicitly,
• what else do they get wrong, even deliberately distort??

PS Remember the Islamic principle of taqiyaa – lying and dissimulation is approved by their god!”

‘P’ responds: “This is a Jewish site not Islamic.”

RB: “Yes I know, but it will indubitably be influenced by Muslims, as inferred from inaccuracy on basic historic facts.”

With respect to that influence, even infiltration perhaps, here’s what I already knew – NB Anti-Defamation League’s warning about Jewish Voice for Peace!!!:

Source: Official account of Congressswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene (Telegram)

Oh by the way, the same threat of decades ago but no longer to be ignored: