[Publ 17 May 2021] Further to Johnny Enlow’s insistence that prophets were correct about the 2020 presidential election, I began blogging on how Donald Trump’s own words may match those of some prophets. The previous two posts give his Statements on the forensic scrutiny of votes during the election held in Maricopa county, Arizona, last November (Note: ‘Mother Of All Bombs’ updated with more headlines). This recount is only one quarter complete BUT massive irregularities have been discovered. So hence, the President’s deep concern.
These issues confirm his claims about malfeasance and huge theft of 3 million votes for him across six ‘battle-ground’ states. As in over 150 ‘media mistakes’ about Trump since 2016, Democrats, mainstream media and social media bosses maintain that Trump lies about the election despite all voting having been the conducted a in proper, legal order. YET, not only do they insist Trump lost the election and should accept it, but also they suppress, censor and twist all criticism and discussion of the matter. If they really are honest, then why silence the issue? America is now a Marxist state under Biden.
IF Trump did lose in a fair competition then why should anyone object to, and certainly not interfere with, due legal process of scrutiny to check the whole voting procedure has been properly recorded, processed, counted and verified in accordance with statutory requirements. If everything was clean and above board then any investigation should show exactly that this is a true statement of historical fact.
BUT the fact that massive irregularities have now been exposed to the light of day must now prove Donald Trump’s claims of fraud are indeed correct and not groundless!
Moreover, similar suspicions are now being raised in New Hampshire and in Michigan, where threats have been made against public discussion!!
Furthermore, this increasing exposure of rigged elections and proven illegality means America currently has an illegitimate president and administration, does it not?
Now, let’s consider some of the prophecies known to this blogger on that election and which, I humbly suggest, warrant prayer and careful study…
THE PROPHETS (non-American)
Living in the UK I’ve not taken particular notice of what’s been prophesied in USA over the years, and thus been unfamiliar with the claims of American prophets that Trump would continue in office as President. I had, however, noted prophecies here about the election but was surprised that, although promising his success, they had caveats about ungodly spiritual and political opposition and need for prayer-warfare!
Remember: the election was disputed until its result was officially declared in Congress on 6th January 2021.
Below are prophecies posted on this blog and at His Kingdom Prophecy, some of which are necessarily extensive. Hence, copy-pasted extracts only are shown but each item should be read in full via links provided (emphases mine):
First, my reader Sally Lou’s recent comments; “…Was given several words from the Lord that clearly state that President Trump is going to serve a second term and that his enemies will be overthrown. I have never ceased to stand on those words. Here are some.:
30 June – the trumpet is trumping. The trumpet is sounding over the US. Donald Trump will serve a second term. The trumpet is drowning out the voices of opposition. The trumpet is calling the troops to war. Winds of the spirit blow across America. Blow over every state. The winds of change are blowing the winds of change are overthrowing. New life new vision new growth. The old has gone the new has come. Lift up your eyes and see the works of the Lord in this day. [Isaiah 10:5 God has determined to let loose a punishing disaster like you’ve never seen.]
21 Sept – I was shown a large bell. A deep booming note came out of it. Jesus said there is an overthrowing coming, get ready for war. Awaken your great warriors. Let all the soldiers come near the valley poised for battle…
23 Sept – Wendy Alec: this-is-a-tipping-point “…I have issued a heavenly writ in My courts of justice and against the trading floors of the enemy. I have issued a divine stay from the destruction the enemy has intended, against the pre-emptive strike to destroy, kill and usher in the end of the age. So do not fear, beloved. Do not fear. The situation is not going to pan out as the enemy’s victory, but I tell you that even as the Israelites stood at the Red Sea, the waters will part. Know this: I am your God. I am your mighty God. I am your omnipresent, omnipotent, omniscient, mighty, mighty God…
“Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. For surely you will see My hand in this coming hour, for by next spring, beloved, the earth will be swept with the renewal and health of My divine justice, and My divine mantle. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. You are Mine.”
23 June – (HKP) America-president-trump-a-rahab-for-this-hour – ‘…The Holy Spirit then whispered to me, “I have given the nation of America a Rahab in President Trump in this hour. And because of his willingness and his obedience to My Call, when the walls of wickedness are dismantled and when the walls of division come crashing down, I shall deliver My Righteous Remnant from destruction. Watch! For My Kingdom purposes through this President shall trump the plans of the enemy in the days ahead!”
28 Aug – Prophetic-dream-president-trumps-wrestling-match-part-1 – ‘Then I saw two hands come together (and the two hands shook) and as the two hands shook, suddenly another hand came out of the heavens and the third hand covered the two hands.
‘I heard these words, “My Covenant Promises shall be fulfilled.” As I heard those words, I saw again President Trump and the man whom he was wrestling and suddenly the darkness that had surrounded President Trump lifted and a beautiful sunrise could be seem breaking forth on the horizon. Then I heard these words, “Trump will win — but he will walk with a limp!”
26 Sep – (HKP) America-a-great-shaking-separation-and-shifting – ‘…As I heard those Words, suddenly I saw Snakes — big black snakes beginning to fall out of the branches of the Olive Tree. And I watched as both the ripe fruit of the Olive Tree and the big black snakes fell simultaneously to the ground in the midst of the great shaking that was taking place.
‘Then I saw the Great Owl begin to swoop down upon the big black (and) began to pick up and devour the black snakes. Then I heard these words, “Watch! For in the midst of a greater shaking a great Harvest shall come forth, and every hidden and evil thing shall be exposed and destroyed!”
30 Sep – Psalm 2 holy-laughter-and-great-shaking-of-USA and-nations – ‘‘While trying to catch up with some of the latest highlights this morning from the Presidential Debate, something amazing happened….,as I was watching suddenly, I heard what I can only describe as A RUMBLE OF HOLY LAUGHTER THAT FILLED THE ATMOSPHERE, IT WAS LAUGHTER THAT SOUNDED LIKE THE THUNDERINGS OF A THOUSAND RUSHING RIVERS….and as I heard this deep penetrating laughter fill the heavenlies,
‘ Then I heard the Spirit say, “THEY HAVE CONSPIRED AGAINST MY ANOINTED AND THEY HAVE SET MANY TRAPS FOR HIM…BUT FEAR NOT!….FOR HIS FEET SHALL TREAD UPON THE SERPENTS AND SCORPIONS AND HE SHALL NOT BE HARMED….BUT WATCH! FOR THE THIEF WILL BE FULLY EXPOSED AND THE FOWLER WILL BE CAUGHT IN HIS OWN SNARE…THAT WHICH THE ENEMY LAY SIEGE TO IN THE LAST SEASON SHALL SURELY BE TAKEN BACK AND WITH SEVEN-FOLD INCREASE….YES!! FOR I SHALL CAUSE THE THIEF TO PAY BACK SEVEN TIMES WHAT HAS BEEN STOLEN…
‘NOW WATCH AS THE PLANS OF THE WICKED ARE UPROOTED AND TORN DOWN…WATCH! AS THE FOUNDATIONS OF FALSE GODS AND IDOLS ARE DISMANTLED AND UTTERLY DESTROYED…‘
2 Oct – Prophetic-dream-president-trumps-wrestling-match-part-2 – ‘...In this part of the dream, when I saw President Trump fall to his knees in the midst of the fierce wrestling match. I was shown in that moment, that there was a not only a fight, a wrestling for the blessing over a nation, but there was a fight and a wrestling for the President’s own life and his God-given Destiny. I was shown in that moment that a battle of life and death was raging over the nation and the President…
‘…I heard these words, “The nations are at a tipping point…” Then I watched and listened as the enemy began to shout out accusation after accusation against the Church in America, and he shouted out that because of the division, the disunity, the lukewarmness and the complacency in The Church, he should be given permission to bring more destruction upon the land and against President Trump and his family.
‘…But then suddenly, I heard the sound of weeping and wailing and I saw a woman appear in the Courtroom. As I looked at her, she had a beautiful Crown upon her head, but she was dressed in sackcloth, and I watched as she knelt down before The Judge of Heaven and she began to cry out in repentance…
‘…Listen and take heed. President Trump is in the midst of a battle for his own life and destiny, and for the life and destiny of a nation. There is a battle of life and death that is unfolding and The Ekklesia — The Church — must take her place on her knees in the days ahead.
‘Listen! Watch and pray — for the enemy seeks permission to touch the life of Trump. But if The Ekklesia stands in the gap, Victory, Triumph and Blessing will be your portion. Therefore, The Remnant must arise and take her place in the midst of the battle that is raging….I hear these Words again, “Fear not! For he shall be bent but not broken, bowed down but not destroyed!”
7 Oct – (HKP) America-the-curse-will-be-reversed – ‘…I could hear a rumbling sound coming from deep within the belly of the Donkey, and suddenly, I heard these words, “Watch! For the curse will be reversed and out of the belly of the beast will come 7-fold Recompense and Restoration!” As those words deeply penetrated my inner most being, I knew by The Spirit of Revelation that the curse of death through abortion that was over the nation was about to be broken!’
20 Oct – (HKP) America-trump-will-receive-double – (Aug 2018) “…prophetically The LORD shows me that He is releasing to President Donald J. Trump in this hour and season, a double portion generational anointing upon his life. It is the same generational mandate and mantle that rested upon the life of Jehu. It is a double portion mantle, a Jehu-Jehoshaphat Mantle that will begin to manifest in these days of increased demonic uprising. It is a mantle given by God to destroy the works of the spirits of Jezebel and Ahab that have held the nation captive for generations. This Jehu-Jehoshaphat Mantle will bring forth sudden, severe and swift judgement and retribution against “all of those” who have opposed the purposes of God in the nation…’
20 Oct – Angel-armies-on-assignment-for-america – ‘…Then suddenly the dream shifted, and I saw thousands upon thousands of Warring Angels being assigned to the POSTAL SYSTEM…and I heard these words, “WATCH! AS THE LIGHT OF MY GLORY EXPOSES THE WORKS OF DARKNESS IN THIS SEASON”…and I saw Warring Angels carrying flaming swords of fire…and I heard these words…”WATCH! FOR MY PURIFYING FIRES SHALL TOUCH THE POSTAL SYSTEM OF THIS NATION AND THE POWERS AND PRINCIPALITIES OF DARKNESS SHALL BE PULLED DOWN AND UPROOTED”...as I heard those words, I felt the anger of the Lord burn strongly against the works of wickedness in the land….and as the dream continued to unfold before me..I watched as the Angel Armies of the Lord were being used mightily to bring forth the plans and purposes of the Lord right across the land and… I SAW DEMONIC STRONGHOLDS BEING DISMANTLED THAT HAD HELD THE NATION CAPTIVE FOR MANY GENERATIONS…I SAW NEW PATHWAYS BEING CREATED IN THE REALM OF THE SPIRIT and…I heard these words,“HIGHWAYS OF HOLINESS…WATCH! FOR OVER THE NEXT FOUR YEARS THE VOTING SYSTEM IN THIS NATION SHALL BE COMPLETELY CHANGED, REFORMED AND TRANSFORMED, FOR THE OLD SYSTEMS OF CORRUPTION AND DECEPTION SHALL BE TORN DOWN AND A NEW SYSTEM OF TRUTH AND RIGHTEOUSNESS SHALL BE BUILT AND ESTABLISHED, FOR BEHOLD I AM DOING A NEW THING”…
3 Nov – (HKP) America-god-is-not-finished-with-trump – “Watch! For in this hour the hand of the enemy would desire to disrupt, delay, derail and destroy the destiny of this Nation from being made manifest in the nations of the earth. But I say, Do not fear! For My Spirit of Righteousness and Justice will move mightily to push back the powers of darkness and to counteract every secret assignment of the enemy in this hour. And even where an attempt by the devil will be made in the days ahead to bring forth great confusion and utter chaos in the land, I say to you, their satanic plans and demonic plots shall not prevail. But surely I tell you the truth, that he who began a good work in this nation will bring it to completion!”
9 Nov – US-election’s-not-over-5: prophetic-insights – brief summary by Chris Moyler but for fuller account of what’s happening see America and the Trump-Biden-poker game on HKP, which includes a race at which Biden cheats yet is God shows her Trump won; PLUS a dream about Kingdom wealth and note especially:
- Meanwhile Trump’s admin are still praying. Then Trump does something very strange and starts to take off his watch. Then he throws it into the middle of the table.
- The watch had the word ‘Triumph’ on it — It is a ‘Triumph Watch’.
- As the watch hits the pile of gold, Trump lays his cards out on the table and I hear the words, “Full House!”
- Immediately, Biden stands up and starts to shout and curse.
- Trump then embraces the pile of gold, and as the watch rolls down the pile he puts it back on his wrist and said to his administration, “It’s time!”
- Then the administration help Trump gather in the mountain of gold coins to their side of the table and scoop them up.
- The Angel then announced “Victory” and “Triumph” with a raised sword over Trump’s head. End of dream.
10 Nov – Powerful-word-and-vision-of-scales-of-justice-judgement-trump-and-usa – ‘… my spirit was caught up in a powerful vision where I was shown the Nation of America lying upon an operating table in what looked like a large hospital theatre…I heard these words, “the hand of the enemy has inflicted a deep penetrating blow to the heart of America, rupturing the main artery of the heart leading to massive haemorrhaging”. Immediately I cried out in the vision, “CAN THE NATION OF AMERICA BE SAVED?” to which a gentle voice answered me saying, “DAUGHTER FEAR NOT, FOR THE FIRES OF MY GLORY ARE NOW FALLING UPON THE HAEMORRHAGING HEART OF AMERICA TO CAUTERISE THE BLEEDING POINT, THE NATION OF AMERICA SHALL NOT DIE BUT LIVE”!
10 Nov – Vivid-vision-of-donald-trump-at-burning-bush – “…AS I STOOD IN THAT PLACE I COULD FEEL THE SPIRITUAL ATMOSPHERE WAS HEAVY WITH DEMONIC OPPRESSION AND SATANIC WITCHCRAFT…,AND I WATCHED AS VAST AMOUNTS OF GOLD COINS AND PRECIOUS JEWELLERY WAS BEING THROWN INTO THE BOILING POT BY THOSE THAT WERE DANCING AROUND THE FIRE…, “WATCH AND PRAY!..,FOR BILLIONAIRES AND MILLIONAIRES HAVE THROWN THEIR GOLD AND PRECIOUS SILVER INTO THE BOILING POT OF PERVERSION AND CORRUPTION THAT THEY MAY BUILD A GOLDEN ALTAR TO THE GODS OF BAAL AND MOLECH” …suddenly I saw the faces of GEORGE SOROS, BILL GATES AND THE FACES OF JOE BIDEN AND KAMALA HARRIS…come up before me and I knew by the Spirit of Revelation that what I was being shown was A POWERFUL DEMONIC PLAN..AND PLOT OF THE ENEMY TO BUILD AND ESTABLISH AN ALTAR OF THE ANTICHRIST IN THE NATION OF AMERICA IN THIS HOUR….and as I looked at this taking place, I began to cry out to the Lord to have MERCY, MERCY ON THE NATION OF AMERICA…
‘…and as I looked at the circle of white light, I heard these words, “WATCH! FOR MY RADIANT REMNANT SHALL ARISE AND SHINE IN THE MIDST OF THE DARKNESS” and as I heard those words, suddenly I could hear the sound of the prayers of the remnant begin to rise…the SOUND OF THE CRIES OF THE REMNANT TURNED TO A ROAR THAT GOT LOUDER AND LOUDER…that the Mountain of the Lord began to shake and tremble…and then I saw the GREAT CLOUD OF WITNESSES APPEAR ONCE AGAIN OVER THE MOUNTAIN OF THE LORD…and I heard these words, “WATCH! AS A DIVINE CONVERGENCE IS NOW BEGINNING TO TAKE PLACE AS HEAVEN TOUCHES EARTH…FOR THE SCALES OF JUSTICE WILL BE SHIFTED AS THE SOUND OF THE ROAR OF THE REMNANT RISES TO TOUCH THE PRAYERS AND THE PROPHETIC PROCLAMATIONS OF THE LATE AND GREAT REFORMERS”… A DIVINE CONVERGENCE; OUR APOSTOLIC AND PROPHETIC AGREEMENT SHIFTS THE SCALES IN THE COURTS…!’
30 Nov – The-great-judge-ruled-against-and-is-exposing-evil-rulers-of-nations – “..MY SPIRIT OF TRUTH IS NOW EXPOSING THE GREAT PRETENDERS FROM AMONG YOU, THE RAVENOUS WOLVES IN SHEEP’S CLOTHING, FOR I AM STRIPPING THE EVIL RULERS OF THE NATIONS OF THEIR GARMENTS OF CORRUPTION AND PERVERSION THAT HAVE LONG COVERED THEM…AND NAKED THEY SHALL STAND BEFORE ME AND BEFORE THE WORLD TO SEE…FOR THEIR EVIL WORKS DONE IN SECRET CANNOT AND WILL NOT BE HIDDEN FROM MY SIGHT…FOR WHAT HAS BEEN CONCEIVED AND CONCEALED IN DARKNESS SHALL NOW BE UNCOVERED AND REVEALED IN THE LIGHT… AND WHERE MY GLORY ONCE COVERED THEM AND MY MERCY ONCE DELIVERED THEM…,NOW THEY SHALL BE CLOTHED WITH SHAME AND DISHONOUR…AND CROWNS OF BITTERNESS AND DEFEAT SHALL ADORN THEIR HEADS AND THEY WILL SIT ON THE ASH HEAP WITH NO HOPE OF RESTITUTION OR REDEMPTION…FOR THEIR STIFF NECKS SHALL BE BROKEN AND THEIR UNCIRCUMCISED HEARTS SHALL BE THEIR DOWNFALL..FOR I SHALL NOT BE MOCKED, BUT I SHALL AVENGE MY ENEMIES WITH JUST ONE BREATH FROM MY NOSTRILS….
“WATCH! FOR SUDDEN DEATH AND DESTRUCTION SHALL COME UPON THOSE WHO DARE TO STAND IN THE WAY OF MY GOVERNING HAND OF JUSTICE AND RIGHTEOUSNESS..FOR I AM THE GREAT JUDGE OVER THE NATIONS AND MY COURTS HAVE RULED FOR LIFE AND LIBERTY OVER DEATH AND BONDAGE..’
16 Jan – (HKP) The-joker-the-queen-and-the-kings-stolen-crown – ‘…I believe there are powerful prophetic aspects of the dream that require immediate warfare for the pulling down of demonic thrones of darkness in this hour. Agree with me! “Joker Biden’s balancing act with The Queen of Hearts, Kamala Harris and The Stolen Crown of The King!”
‘Suddenly in that moment… I heard these Words, ”The Throne of The Lion King!” …(and) noticed another chair which was brought to my attention…that was a ‘three-legged stool’ (which looked almost like a high standing bar-stool)….I knew by revelation that this was also a ‘type of Throne’, but as I drew closer to it, I heard the Words, “Demonic throne of the darkness!”
‘Now as I stepped even closer towards this strange looking ‘throne’, I…noticed a large triangular shape engraved upon the seat of the three-legged stool and in the middle of the triangle was with an eye. And as I looked at (this) I heard…”A love triangle… and the eye of Leviathan.” As those Words echoed loudly in the spirit realm, I heard…”The triangle of Obama, Biden and Harris”…’
17 Feb – (HKP) Vision-demonic-blood-covenant – ‘After this powerful encounter, I truly fear for all those who have given support to this man. I saw so clearly in this encounter (again I will share more when I am given liberty), but those who have aligned themselves with this illegitimate king will become partakes in the demonic destruction that is to come to this man’s life in the days ahead.
‘I saw Satan trap him, use him and then utterly destroy him, and the Demonic Portal that was opened when the Blood Covenant was made, has given Satan full legal right and access to touch the lives of all those who have aligned themselves with this man!
“Watch! For specific landmarks will be shaken — a sign of a divine dismantling taking place!” In this encounter I was also shown other ‘specific landmarks in the nation’ where the enemy has also built and established Thrones of Satanic Witchcraft which has caused the land to become demonically locked up. In those areas, this demonic land locking has resulted in many ministries failing in those areas; very high suicide rates in young people and high death rates through sickness and infirmity. It has also ushered in powerful demonic activity that has caused the very land itself to become infertile and barren.
‘But as I was shown these things in the encounter, I saw a great and sudden divine dismantling coming to these specific areas. A sign that this is beginning to take place will be seen when a great shaking of the soil happens and some of these landmarks will be effected. Watch, as it will be reported in the News!’
17 Feb – Prophetic-visions-words-urgent-warning-for-perverted-america – “WATCH! FOR A TIME OF SELF-PRESERVATION WILL NOW TURN TO A TIME OF SELF-DESTRUCTION WITHIN THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY,…FOR I AM NOW RELEASING A MIGHTY WHIRLWIND OF THE SPIRIT OF THE FEAR OF THE LORD UPON THE LAND,..FOR THOSE WHO HAVE SOUGHT TO PRESERVE AND PROTECT THEMSELVES FROM THE CONSEQUENCES OF THEIR PERVERSION AND CORRUPTION WILL HAVE NO PLACE TO RUN AND HIDE,…’
These links should be read in full as they’re a series of unfolding dreams on the details and demonic treachery behind the election, its outcome and consequent upheaval.:
21 Jul, 16 Oct, 3 Nov – Prophetic-watch-on-america-and-president-trump-continued-1
5 Nov – Prophetic-watch-on-america-and-president-trump-continued-2
17 Nov – Prophetic-watch-on-america-and-president-trump-contd-3-5th-dream –
Abel concludes, “I knew that The LORD was clearly showing that prayers and intercession are causing exposures to take place, and that the enemy has made a fool of himself on television, through a complicit media. However; we must watch for the places where Angels are uncovering things, so there will be a build up of profound overwhelming evidence for Donald Trump to present a sound argument in The Courts — both in Heaven and on earth for decisions that are being made to be made.”
This selection of prophecies delivered on this side of ‘The Pond’ shows why ordinary assumptions made from prophecies on Donald Trump winning the election for a second term are far from being straightforward. The above foretell a strongly contested election controlled by demonic activity, one of the consequences of which is extensive political corruption mixed with criminal activity.
Yet the whole satanic scheme is now being exposed…thank and praise you Lord.
PS. Also see The Prophets ARE Right: Frank Sui on America’s Re-birth and the New Independence Day
I have the strongest feeling that the three Judeo-Christian brothers, Israel, US and Great Britain are all facing the same fire-storm. As we are all lied about,kindapped, betrayed and ostracised, llike Joseph, we are being forged in the fire, and will come out as pure, pure, gold.
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it is not only the US, Israel and GB in the firestorm, it is not only all of what we call the western world. Have a look at Leisa Ebere’s post ( Favour to the Nations Prophecy )from 23.08.2019 here on Richards’s Watch. Every nation will erupt at its given time, The first grumblings may have started simultaineously. And every eruption will have its own significance. A Bavarian prophet said last century that only ONE (Or two – I simply cannot remember, it is too far in the past) country will neither experience civil war nor be subject to war during the end time. I do not know yet who will be first and last. But ( almost) every eruption will mean war and civil war. Neither the US nor GB have reached this threshold yet. We will have to wait and see whether what happens right now in Israel will be one of the many very violent incidents she has had to defend herself against up to now. But we pray for her.
I remember a prophecy either here or on HKP perhaps sometime in 2019 or 2020 that we are going through a time now when all the evil doings everywhere will be brought into bright day light. I think to give every person the final chance to witness the corruption and filth pervading all of society and take a stand before the judgement comes. I only have a vague idea when it will be my country’s turn to start to proof herself. D. Trump is the one to bring the US cesspool into the open – there will be no more covering up. But this will not prevent the rest to unfold. The same applies to GB but GB is not where the US are today.
As you say,the remnant is forged in this fire and will come out as pure gold.
God bless you
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What’s your opinion of Sky News as a reliable source?
I’ve no in-depth info to assess but think it comes within general mainstream media category of being anti-Trump. Living in Arizona you may have more info as it’s American.
Is there a British publication you trust? I do not have much faith in the American Media.
Good morn’ Tony,
Daily Telegraph is relatively reasonable but I was disappointed to read its new US correspondent is poorly informed on Trump. You may have seen my refc to Daily Mail coverage of the retired generals on Biden. It was well-balanced BUT one of my comments with link to it within Fbk thread go deleted for breaching its ‘commie’ standards!! Would have blogged on it but not enough time.
You may have noted my frequent usage of Koenig’s World Watch Daily, The Epoch Times and The Gateway Pundit. Am soon to quote WDN (World Net Daily) on the Dems and election fraud
Also attorney Sidney Powell’s telegram cites many sensibly sound media >
Will be copying comment on my FB timeline from reader in Phoenix.
I have seen a number of videos by Sky News Australia. I thought they were very good. https://www.youtube.com/user/SkyNewsAustralia/featured
I also like Dr. Steve Turley: