Further to his previous message about Johnny Enlow on Embracing The Golden Age and comments on ACPE’s Statement, Chris Moyler brought this welcome update of Saturday:
“Dear Friends, More about ACPE’s correction of Emma Stark’s prophecy concerning President Trump. Personally, I am v pleased that this v sad matter is being given a thorough airing. Chris”
When watching this 13-minute video and seeing a replay of Emma bringing the curse I realised why my spirit had a sharp sense of grieving upon her boast of four years ago. Also, her attitude reminded me of their influence behind another’s gross lie two years later in public defamation and accusation of my practising witchcraft, contrary to their dictat, of which I was unaware – all because of posting prophecies about Donald Trump, monitoring news and thus recording accurate prophecies being fulfilled…!!!
Jennifer LeClaire provides answers to these questions raised on the Apostolic Council of Prophetic Elders condemnation of some of Emma Stark’s prophecies:
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why did you issue the statement publicly?
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why didn’t you use Emma Stark’s name in the release?
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did you contact Emma and David first?
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did Emma and David have their word judged before they issued it?
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did Emma and David know you were going to go public to discuss the words?
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did you threaten Emma that she would go to Homeland Security to have her banned from the United States?
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what gives you the right to call these words false prophecies?
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what did you hope to accomplish from your statements from the ACPE?
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what are some other concerns that you have with what is happening with the Global Prophetic Alliance headed by Emma and David Stark?
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are you willing for there to be dialogue between Emma and David in the ACPE?
The introduction to the ACPE Statement on His Kingdom Prophecy provides Veronika West’s immediate request for removal of the broadcast and, being rebuked, her written reaction: “This is one of the most appalling, disgusting, and defamatory so-called prophetic words concerning President Trump.
Frankly, I would have hesitated to release such words even over my worst enemy, let alone a man who has survived three assassination attempts and endured relentless abuse, hatred, and violence.
Most people would not have the strength to endure even a fraction of what President Trump has faced. Yet, he has shown incredible courage and bravery, all for freedom, defending life in the womb, supporting Israel, and standing with the Church, despite much of the Church rejecting him….”
Auto-generated transcript for those who prefer reading than watching video, with my minimal editorial touches:
“Many of you have seen the prophetic word
that was issued by Emma Stark on
Election Eve called God punched Trump
many more of you have seen the response
from the apostolic Council of prophetic
Elders uh this group was formed about 25
years ago and has been meeting annually
to discuss what the Lord is saying and
to raise up a generation of prophetic
people respectively in our Ministries I
did join that Council in
2017 so I’m a relatively new member but
I was on the video where Cindy Jacobs
led a response to the prophetic words
released by Emma Stark and now we’ve
seen Emma has since and David her
wonderful husband has released a word in
response and that’s caused a lot of
confusion because it’s almost become a
“he said, she said” sort of scenario and so
with that uh the ACPE has crafted a
second statement essentially Q&A there’s
not a lot of hubbub in it – it is a
straight up Q&A addressing some of the
most common questions that have Arisen
from this disagreement within the
prophetic Ministry the prophetic
movement so I’m going to read you this
statement it’s called answering
questions concerning the ACPE release
many people have posed questions as to
why the apostolic Council of prophetic
Elders ACPE released our statement
judging two words by Emma Stark we
wanted to respond to the most common
questions and we pray this helps bring
more insight and understanding number
one: why did you issue the statement
publicly we issued the statement because
of the gravity of the words given and
the potential damage that could occur as
a result of the violent imagery in the
god punched Trump word as well as a word
over the democracy of America here’s an
exact quote “I was in a vision” this is a
quote from Emma’s video:
“I was in a
vision and the Lord I was in a vision
and the Lord punched Trump in the face
it was a judgment image it was a
judgment imagery and his teeth came
out and there was a lot of blood in the
image very parabolic very symbolic and
the Lord said this to me ‘I am going to
render him unable to leave
I am going to render him unable to
gather the best Minds I am going to
render him unfit and he will fall over
he has become the champion of himself
rather than the champion of my kingdom
there will be a catastrophic Time ahead
of him leading and then him being
removed by me the Lord says he has
partnered with an antichrist Spirit to
build his own kingdom and that means he
is building against my kingdom.”
In Emma’s videos she invites people to
test her words we judge both of the
words to be false and not from God.
Here’s a few reasons why we do not
believe God is finished with America we
also do not believe that Trump’s
election is a judgment from God Trump
has survived three assassination
attempts and plots that we know of this
violent rhetoric can give license to
those who were consumed by hate to
attempt to fulfill her prophecy when the
video was first released Emma made no
call to avoid inciting violence though
she did so in a subsequent release after
the ACPE issued our word of
Correction some might wonder if we would
have given push-back against this kind
of violence against leaders of the
Democratic party yes against any elected
official or monarchy the instances where
wicked rulers like Herod who was eaten
up with worms had words of judgment
spoken over them was because they were
evil
dictators here are some things outside
of those facts that concern us the words
lack Redemption although David Stark did
say to pray for Trump there was a strong
inference that these events Trump’s
removal and riots in America would take
place and could not be stopped these
words Bring No Redemption we believe in
two Chronicles 7:14 and that God brings warnings
because he is a merciful god words have
power speaking such judgment can
actually curse our
nation
number two why didn’t you use
number two why didn’t you use
Emma Stark’s name in the
release? we discussed whether or not we
should use Emma’s name and felt we were
extending a measure of Grace by not
doing so we were judging the word and
not the person we are not nor have we
ever called Emma a false prophet we were
not seeking to harm her in any way
number three did you contact Emma and
David first? yes in fact we have had many
discussions with Emma over the course of
the last 18 months about harsh words
Emma and David’s reply was that they
felt these prophecies the Trump and the
riot prophecies were called uh we called
out are accurate
number four did Emma and David
have their word judged before they
issued it? according to Emma and David
these words were judged by the people in
their own group we feel words of this
magnitude that could impact Nations
should be judged also by those outside
their immediate Ministry
number five did Emma and David
know you were going to go public to
discuss the words? yes when they were
contacted concerning the words they were
told that if a retraction was it made
that the word the discussion would be
taken public
number six did you threaten Emma
that she would go to Homeland Security
to have her banned from the United
States? absolutely not since the home
since homeland security monitors words
of violence and the language used
prophesying about the Democracy of the
nation essentially going away and a new
system put in place we were concerned
Emma could be flagged or even
blacklisted from the nation the message
was sent out of love and care we did not
want her to be banned from the United
States for what could be 10 years or
more
number seven what gives you the
right to call these words false
prophecies? 1 Corinthians 14:29 tells us
two or three prophets should speak and
the others should weigh what carefully
what is said Emma was once a member of
the ACPE we haven’t agree that if we’re
going to give words anything of this
magnitude that we submit it to each
other to be judged
number eight what did you hope to
accomplish from your statements from the
ACPE? a responsive humility we all agreed
that if our elders came to us and were
concerned about something we had
released we would take stock of
ourselves and ask such questions as what
do you feel the words were wrong why do
you feel the words were wrong instead we
have seen arrogance and a lack of
willingness to even consider any changes
at the very least it acknowledgment that
the timing of the release on the eve of
the US election was Ill advised the
intimation is that the older generation
are old wine controlling Pharisees and
the next generation are modern prophets
we are not trying to control anything
but rather address very troubling and
false prophecies we are deeply concerned
that the spirit being exhibited breeds
harshness and judgmentalism rather than
humility and Brokenness we feel there
was no repentance but only dogmatic
responses most of us have had
relationship with Emma and have loved
her deeply we are deeply grieved that
this even needs to be addressed we are
still praying for her
number nine what are some other concerns that you have
with what is happening with the Global
Prophetic Alliance headed by Emma and
David Stark? a generational divide they are
actively sowing Discord and unrest among
the Next Generation this is not the only
time we have addressed Emma on her harsh
and unredemptive prophecies various ones
of us have tried to talk to her about
these concerns there have been Zoom
calls with leaders that they’ve that
they have hurt churches and national
leaders have contacted us about the
damage she has done in their spheres one
such example was when she prophesied in
Alaska God spat on you Alaska God spits
on you we have received many reports
that Emma has hurt people through her
harsh words in the name of prophecy on
behalf of those who have no voice we
feel we must be a
Voice number 10 are you willing for
there to be dialogue between Emma and
David in the ACPE?
Yes of course sadly we felt we took
Yes of course sadly we felt we took
the approach and it did not promote change
it seemed that although we dialogued she
was determined to remain as harsh as in
the past feeling that she was God’s
mouthpiece and she could say and do
whatever she pleased after a number of
Zoom calls with Emma we still had people
calling us about the hurt she was
causing however we are still willing to
have mediation it is our deep desire to
see the gift that God has given her in
teaching and ministering used to its
fullest extent she is unique in her
abilities and we desire many to be
blessed by them it is not our desire to
get into a verbal back and forth over
this issue this will be our last public
statement on the matter finally we want
to especially address the Next
Generation we love you we simply need to
we simply need want to bless you and
need to bless you the ACPE believes that
you are simply the best generation and
the most prophetic that we have ever
encountered it is our desire to run
together as tribes and tongues and
celebrate our diversity in ways of
hearing from God from the seers to The
Feelers the apostolic Council of
prophetic
Elders so that’s the statement you know
I’m in a unique position and that I am
in between the elders who are in their
70s and some in their 80s and even 90s
and generation uh Millennial the
millennial and the Gen Z’s I’m sort of
the hinge I’m right in between
generationally I’m Gen X and I remember
it was a year AG uh eight years ago
today that the Holy Spirit told me to
pour out my life as a drink offering for
the Next Generation so believe me all of
this is Grievious to me but I’ve been
sounding the alarm for over 20 years on
these sorts of issues and we do need to
be very careful when we speak for God I
do believe as I said in the original
video that there are many streams many
expressions of the prophetic and as long
as it’s coming out of the Heart of Jesus
it’s all beautiful we don’t all have to
be the same it’s not about personality
it’s about truth and so I want to say to
the younger generation man I know this
is tough my heart breaks I am so
saddened that this is played out in
social media I wish with everything in
me that it didn’t have to be this way
um but there is a cleansing happening in
the body of Christ in this hour you’ve
seen so many um difficult things that
have happened so many people are hurt um
in prayer Ministries and now in
prophetic Ministries we see the same
thing happen in mega churches we’re
seeing all this even in the world
playing out with
scandals I know it’s hard I know I it’s
hard for me and we need to not be
divided in this hour we need to stay
unified we need to walk together arm
in arm in the blessed
Unity of the Lord this is the End-times
and things are only going to get worse
in the sense of the enemy is Raging he
wants to divide us and a kingdom divided
against itself cannot stand so let’s all
just seek the Lord really and hear what
he has to say let’s get his heart
because this chaos and this Strife this
is not what God wants it’s not what I
want and I know that it’s not what the
ACPE wants this was all done with fear
and trembling with weeping with
intercession
please hear my heart I love you and I’m
praying for you.”
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