Am grateful to my dear friend Chris Moyler for posting this last Wednesday, whilst I was writing ‘wheels-within-wheels’ 34, 35, 36 on the prophetic eagle and four faces of God, because Chris’ item directly connects into another personal event that occurred in 1997, as recounted below.

In view of our common understanding of the error of Replacement theology – even with  renowned theologian RT Kendall’s endorsement – I’m pleased that we should look past that difference and listen to this recent interview.

Here are introductions by Chris on his Facebook and by Charisma Media on YouTube :

 
This really is a MUST WATCH, but for our purposes I’m focusing upon what RT says six minutes into the interview:

“My friend said he was angry enough to chew nails. I mean, I’m telling you, all those people there that night, they were livid that I would say that. So, I was not popular!

However, the next day, somebody said to me, “RT, did you get that from Smith Wigglesworth?” I said, “What are you talking about?”  “Oh, he said it.”

Well, I didn’t know much about Smith Wigglesworth. I knew that he healed people by punching them in the stomach and things like that. I didn’t know he gave any kind of prophetic word, but it turns out if we’re to believe it, it’s on the internet and unless somebody made it up, it is said that three months before he died, he said this: that there would come a move of the Holy Spirit that would emphasise the gifts. Well, he said this in I believe it was in 1947. That’s my recollection.

And uh well, in 1960, there were three movements that began. And this is one of the things that makes you think it really was of God, because they didn’t know about each other. One in Seattle, one in London, and one in South Africa. all emphasising the baptism of the Holy Spirit and especially the gifts of the Spirit. People were speaking in tongues and that seems to be the year the charismatic movement began.

Now charismatics are to be disassociated from the old-line Pentecostals like Assembly of God, Pentecostal Holiness, Church of God.

Charismatics are different because charismatics came from Presbyterian, Baptist, Episcopal. [RB: Roman Catholics too in 1967] So that’s why they see the Charismatic movement is something different from the old-fashioned Pentecostals.

Well, then what happened was according to Smith Wigglesworth, he said that will be followed by people starting new churches.

Well, that happened in the 70s and 80s and this was well known in England. There were famous, they called them house churches. One was called Ichthus, led by Gerald Coates. One was called Pioneer led by…no no Roger Forster was Ichthus. Gerald Coates was Pioneer, and then another called New Frontiers with Terry Virgo. So there were the main house churches.

Well, according to Smith Wigglesworth, assuming let’s just give him the credit for the moment, he said these house churches would come up. But then he added when they are on the wane – wane – he said there will be a new movement that will exceed anything that has ever been seen before. It will be a movement of the Holy Spirit that will go all over England into Europe and uh be the greatest work of the Spirit since Pentecost.

Now that’s what he said. Well, that’s what I said. I knew nothing about Smith Wigglesworth. That’s exactly what I said that night: the greatest move of the Spirit since Pentecost.

And so the fact that Smith Wigglesworth said it gave me a little bit of credibility, but this was not known at the time. This is later on. And uh all I can say is that well now it’s been many years later, and I said that the Charismatic movement is ‘Ismail’ at the time, nobody would have it!”

PERSONAL CONNECTION

Four days later I comment

“LOL dear Chris ACE! Just got around to watching after waking early and now find your post has 22 likes – my birthday number once again AND birth year ’47 when SW had that vision, AND 50 years later I was with his prayer partner when he had the same vision. Wow Praise the Lord and agree 110% with RT!”

Dip into this blog’s Prophecy Library 1909-2024 and you’ll find these references listed:

1947 – Smith Wigglesworth: Prophecy of major move of the Holy Spirit in Britain. Note: two preliminary phases have already happened, so be prepared for the full move! Likewise for the word delivered 40 years later to David Minor! (as below) See also 1997 and prophecies of A New Era for the Church  AND  Paws4T: Britain-shaped cloud & Smith Wigglesworth’s Vision.

1997 – Norman James: similar vision of UK to his prayer-partner Smith Wigglesworth had in 1947.

My above linked email of 15 years ago (26 May 2011) recounts 1997:

‘At a prayer for revival [relating to the Welsh Revival 1904-05] I had the privilege of meeting 80 years old Rev Norman James, prayer partner of the renowned ‘apostle of faith’, Smith Wigglesworth. When this small group stood in a close circle to pray, Norman was less than a yard right in front of me.  As he was shorter than me my eyes opened slightly to gaze fully into his face and I couldn’t help but notice his eyes alight with excitement. A huge, beaming smile – he was radiant!

Norman could hardly speak, save to whisper, “I’ve just seen what Wigglesworth saw – Britain in revival, on fire for the Lord!”

Ever so briefly he explained that in Wigglesworth’s 88th year the Lord had given him a vision of a future revival in Britain. He knew it would happen decades ahead but he so desperately desired to see such days.  Thus Norman confided, “No wonder he wanted the Lord to keep him alive!“. But he couldn’t find the words to describe its wonder.

Smith Wigglesworth’s prophecy about a coming move of the Holy Spirit in the UK, is as follows:

TWO DISTINCT MOVES
During the next few decades there will be two distinct moves of the Holy Spirit across the church in Great Britain. The first move will affect every church that is open to receive it and will be characterized by a restoration of the baptism and gifts of the Holy Spirit. The second move of the Holy Spirit will result in people leaving historic churches and planting new churches. In the duration of each of these moves, the people who are involved will say “This is the great revival”. But the Lord says “No, neither is this the great revival but both are steps towards it”.

WORD AND SPIRIT
When the new church phase is on the wane, there will be evidenced in the churches something that has not been seen before: a coming together of those with an emphasis on the Word and those with an emphasis on the Spirit.

When the Word and the Spirit come together, there will be the biggest movement of the Holy Spirit that the nation, and indeed the world, has ever seen. It will mark the beginning of a revival that will eclipse anything that has been witnessed within these shores, even the Wesleyan and the Welsh revivals of former years. The outpouring of God’s Spirit will flow over from the UK to the mainland of Europe, and from there will begin a missionary move to the ends of the earth.

For a brief background see the Apostle of Faith on Jonas Clark’s website, or visit the Revival Library’s dedicated website for full biographical accounts and materials.

In Great Revivalists John Peters writes:

‘All that mattered to Wigglesworth was listening for and to the voice of God’s Holy Spirit: it is hardly any wonder this ministry had such powerful anointing…
He conceived of revival in typically robust terms: that it can only come when we are prepared to die to self and human striving. Alongside this was his teaching that Jesus must occupy the foremost place in our hearts and lives.’

It’s interesting to note, therefore, that Nathan Morris stresses those very points during the Bay of the Holy Spirit Revival.’