These two prophetic words were posted yesterday by Veronika, please read in full at His Kingdom Prophecy by clicking these links:
WATCH & PRAY AS A POLITICAL DOMINO-EFFECT COMES INTO PLAY
A DIVINE CONVERGENCE ZONE OVER A WAR ZONE
To the latter Veronika adds a helpful explanatory Postscript in reply to this question:
“What do you think to Ezekiel 38 Gog and Magog? Because that’s what I’m “feeling”.
“Gog” is “the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal”. The proper translation is “The Prince of Rosh. Meshech and Tubal!” In Hebrew, the word for chief is “Rosh”. That is also the ancient name for “Russia”. So GOG is The Prince of Rosh, or the president or ruler of Rosh. Simply put. – the President or ruler of Russia.”
Yes! The timeline of God is unfolding, but we must also recognise that Satan is endeavouring to accelerate the timeline to destroy the Harvest.
This is why we are seeing the great upheavals, as we pray let us seek wisdom understanding and discernment of the times so we rightly align.
It concerns me that some are just taking the back-foot, because they hold onto a false hope narrative that says, “Don’t worry, it’s all just going to be fine and everything we desire will be sitting in front of us after the dust settles!” This is being in denial not walking in true discernment.
Unfortunately many in The Body have an “Escapism Mindset”. The LORD is not as concerned about our comfort than he is about our character. The road to The Cross was one of suffering, not satisfaction and comfort.
To truly understand the times, we must recognise that prophetically, Nations are now being separated and sifted.
This should not bring fear, but rather a greater expectation for the greater outpouring of the glory that is to come.
Take a look at the Word I gave on what Nations will look like as the weight of His Glory falls… The weight of His Glory will dismantle destroy, uproot and tear-down, expose and purify, but it will also build, establish and plant the new.
When The Glory comes, Nations will be brought to their knees.
Blessings to you all.
~ by Veronika West
Richard have you seen this from Pat Robertson?
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Thanks Tony and please see reply to Mark below. Will try to carve out some time if poss to view
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Managed to watch a few minutes Tony but regret to say not particularly impressed.
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Hello Richard, I do not think that Rosh has ever been a name for Russia. If so, I would like to see the document. Russia had many names in ancient times, none of which fit this narrative. That doesn’t mean Russia won’t be a part of the Gog Magog issue but saying it is so based more on learned bias than actual fact is not helpful. Here is an interesting article discussing this by someone who has put much more thought into this than I.
https://truedsicernment.com/2008/09/06/%E2%80%9Crosh%E2%80%9D-is-not-russia/
Just a thought. Mark
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That’s very helpful Mark, thank you, as I’ve not yet had time to elaborate upon that Gog-Magog I discerned from Veronika’s earlier word. Y’day time was v tight too but I wanted to show how contemporary prophecy fits into the wider Biblical time-frame.
On your valuable point; when I began blogging I briefly covered Dr Chuck Missler’s esteemed approach to eschatology, including his team’s articles The Treacherous Trio of Ezekiel and here’s link examining Russia > https://www.khouse.org/articles/2009/869/
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Thank you Richard, I will read that. Mark
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Hello Richard, Well, I am blaming you for this post. LOL. Your recent post (November 2018 prophecy implies Americans brought us to doorstep of World War III) contained a post from Enlow’s Facebook which got me looking at comments to his post. One of those comments had a link to Steve Cioccolanti’s Youtube channel. Well one of his videos discusses the “is Rosh Russia” debate. I thought he did an excellent job (mostly because I agree with his conclusion) and thought you might be interested in reading the transcript. It is fairly short. Here is the link followed by the transcript. Mark Jenson
in response to the recent ukraine and
russia updates a few people have been
asking me well you know what is rash if
it’s not russia
because a lot of prophecy teachers are
convinced
that raj meshech and tubal in ezekiel 38
and 39 surely that sounds like you know
russia and moscow and i don’t know what
tupa they think it sounds like but that
is called a false cognate that is when
unrelated words that don’t have anything
to do with each other happen to sound
similar
so for instance in english you have the
word suffering
and suffrage
they sound like
similar things but they’re totally
totally unrelated
suffering is pain
suffrage means voting rights
you also have
false cognates between different
languages so the first example i gave is
within the same language but also
between languages
you can have false cognates so in in
japanese if you were to say thank you
you would say arigato arigato is thank
you
but when you go to brazil or portugal
thank you is obrigado
well arigato and obrigado almost sound
like they’re related so you could say
there you go that’s the like the
international word for thank you and
they’re related you know like japan
descended from portuguese nope you would
be completely wrong because that’s a
false cognate that’s the same thing with
the word rosh the word rosh is hebrew
for head
so some translation says the prince of
rosh meshech and tuba other translation
says no rosh means head so it’s the
chief prince of meshech and tuba and
meshech and tuba on any ancient map is
in present-day turkey or the bible calls
it asia minor but a lot of people don’t
believe it or they say yeah it could be
true but um you know the country’s
supposed to be north of israel well if
you draw a line north of israel it hits
turkey
it hits turkey so that totally qualifies
of course it hits lebanon syria it goes
up to turkey
and the enemies of israel in the last
days will all be muslim countries it’s
clear from the list that’s the one thing
they all have in common
and they all have actually already had
fightings with the jews they’ve already
perse persecuted the jews before
but russia has never done it russia has
never invaded israel so i don’t know
where we get that from other than a
false cognate so i think if you’re
asking what is raj well raj is a hebrew
word for head and it would be the
descriptor of the prince of meshech and
tuba
but we don’t even have to go there we
don’t even have to go through all the
linguistics and the migrations and all
these things you can just go straight to
the bible and you would get the answer
my question for people who believe that
meshech sounds like moscow therefore
it’s predicting moscow is going to
invade israel my question is
if that’s true
did
david
ever live in moscow
it’s a simple question that needs to be
answered if meshech is moscow did king
david
at any point in his time lifetime live
in moscow
no
well you say no but the bible says this
in psalm 120 it says
king david wrote this woe is me
that i so join again i’m reading king
james okay that i so join or live or
stay at in meshech
that i dwell in the tents of kedar if
you subscribe to the theory that rash’s
russia meshech is moscow then king david
lived in moscow
because he said woe is me that i dwell
in the tents of meshech
i think that’s that’s highly problematic
because we have to let the bible
interpret the bible
and the whole theory about russia being
the place that invades israel or being
the place of the antichrist comes from
nothing but american politics
it’s a western european demonization of
a country and a culture
it doesn’t have to do with the bible it
has to like has to do with your current
news you’re in a particular cycle and
you feel that this is your enemy but
it’s not what the bible is saying i’m
going to give you another scripture just
to prove this to you did lebanon
did lebanon
trade with moscow in the ancient times
okay well if meshech is moscow then it
must have and of course that’s
historically false
what we find in ezekiel 27
ezekiel 27 talks about tire attire was
tired said on okay and now beirut they
were all the capital cities of lebanon
present-day lebanon
and so speaking about lebanon
ezekiel the prophet says
in verse 13
javan which is greece tubal
which is
in
the final war that invades israel and
meshech
they were thy merchants
they traded the persons of men and
vessels of brass in thy market
meaning that there was corruption there
was human trafficking
going on and slavery obviously at that
time going on between lebanon and
if you believe it moscow
so you can’t just say i believe moscow
invades in ezekiel 38 39 but i don’t
believe king david lived in moscow
because we allowed the bible to be its
best its own commentary
the mistake of the pharisees was they
went outside of the bible and they
depended on other commentaries
and i don’t mind you know people doing
that i’m not against them i understand
that they’re maybe convinced by their
own theory but maybe i’m a little bit
simplistic
i see psalm 120 i see ezekiel 27 and i
look at the history and i see no
involvement of russia or moscow in
biblical history
therefore i’m going to just simply
ignore
that these theories that russia is a
main player it obviously could be a
tangent player it obviously could sell
arms to iran and iran is obviously in
the ezekiel 38 invasion
but it doesn’t mean that the country you
hate the most because of the country you
live in is the antichrist country we
can’t do that kind of injustice to bible
interpretation
so
if you ask where’s rosh well rosh is
just means the head
where’s meshach and tubal they’re in
turkey
and is turkey prepared to start a new
caliphate of course they are
are the muslims prepared to commit
anti-semitic acts of terror of course
they are
does that mean all muslims are bad no i
didn’t say that but i’m saying we got to
stick to the bible we got to stick to
the biblical geography
and not go on a wild goose chase trying
to trace linguistics and trying to trace
migration patterns
then almost nobody can understand the
bible except like these elites you know
theological elites and experts no
everybody can read psalm 120 everybody
can read ezekiel and you can come to a
very well educated conclusion that it’s
the surrounding enemies the surrounding
traditional enemies of israel they’re
surrounding historical enemies of israel
that are going to be the main players in
attacking israel for history biblical
history is prophecy
all right nothing new under the sun so
i’ve answered that question i didn’t go
deep deep into archaeology and history
but i hope that you uh can stand on the
authority of the word of god that’s all
we got the word of god is
the commentary on the word of god
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